Thursday, July 21, 2011

thurs july 21, in room done for the nite to rest (nightcap)

new roll of $11,600. sure wish id had this much doing the wsop, or back when online poker still existed for US players, i couldve invested it in so many ways. met 2 guys tonite in the IP game where $150 of my winnings came from. they were from AC and europe and were discussing how much better off someone is playing $2-5 than $1-2 and im just not ready to make the change although they claim my rolls good enough. i could be wrong, and id like feedback from $2-5 players, but arent the $2-5 players a lot better than $1-2 players? i think i need 15,000 (30 buyins) of 500 but they say 15 buyins are enough if i dont have big holes in ur game. i think they only feel this way because they are so much YOUNGER than me, and can start over from scratch easier and find other alternatives, all of which i cannot risk. i used to feel that way too and had a much much smaller roll when i was their age. hell i used to sometimes go to a strip club and spend $100 with a roll of $2500 or so, u would never never see me do that nowdays. growing OLD has made me much more conservative in my outlook, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

and earlier i won about $50 at the westin on VP, won about $225 at osheas, but lost over $300 in the challenge with grouchie, (find details on his blog) im so tired i dont remember ANY hands believe it or not, but before the challenge started i was up $597 at one time at osheas in the poker game alone. also won about $40 at bills too. would like to talk about hands, and trying to remember some.

24 comments:

  1. Here in Vancouver, on average the players are better at 2/5 than 1/2, but not a huge difference. The problem is, you do have a lot of holes in your game, and it only takes a couple of good players at 2/5 to exploit you and you will be in trouble. I don't know about Vegas 2/5, but locally the 2/5 games are played by 80-90% regulars, so it won't take long before you get exploited.

    Your BR is not big enough to handle the variance at the 2/5 level. Wait till you get over 15,000 at least, preferably over 20,000. If you want, take a shot with one buyin and if you bust out, go back to 1/2.

    The biggest problem I see though, is your inability to handle losses. The losses are going to be bigger at 2/5, and more likely because the avg. skill level is higher, which means your chance of going on monkey tilt and blow off big chunk of your BR is going to be much higher at 2/5.

    p.s. This blog format is terrible. I don't know how much longer I'm going to keep reading and posting.

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  2. Tony- I totally agree w/ Pokerdog. Not all 2-5 players are better. So just have more money. You have to learn how to mentally handle bigger swings in 2-5. Your typical reaction has been to try to win it back on the machines and compound the lost.

    Secondly, this blog format is terrible. Part of the enjoyment was the interaction w/ everyone, good and bad. I'll be in on sat for 6 days.

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  3. actually part of my roll is due to a win at ceasers of $400+ at $2-5 but still ive played it little and im not sure if i won it playing well or getting lucky. need more time in to know. i just think buying in 300 instead of 100-200 is really helping me do better at 1-2 nl and i must sleep now.

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  4. 20 buy ins is more than enough to take shots at 2-5nl but u need to be a solid player, u sir..are not.

    Also when I say 20 b.i I mean poker roll, not life roll.

    Stick at 1/2 and 50c/1 where u belong. Get off the bj also, lol 2/5 with 20 b.i, ur tilt issues and leaks is a countdown to bustoville if still playin vbj

    -Pete1964

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  5. One winning session at 2/5 means nothing. I won a bit over $2100 on Monday in a wild 5/5 game this week, but I could just as easily have lost that much in that game. Variance will be bigger due to the bigger blinds and stacks, and 2/5 (or 5/5) tend to be more aggressive. You will also see more semi-bluffs and people that play their draws and monsters the same way. Without good post-flop and hand reading skills, you are going to have a tougher time playing 2/5 than 1/2.

    If you want to play higher, play 1/3. The play is basically the same as 1/2 but the extra dollar in the BB makes for much juicier pots. Sometimes a good 1/3 game plays just like a 2/5.

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  6. "but they say 15 buyins are enough if i dont have big holes in ur game."

    But tony i think people have been pointing out for sometime that you do have holes in your game...big holes....

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  7. God!.. This blog is a snooze-fest..

    -Win at poker
    -Lose on VBJ
    -Lose at poker
    -Win on VBJ
    -Win on Poker
    -Blowup

    Rinse and Repeat

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  8. TBC, what made your last blog interesting and appealing was that there could be discussion between posters at any time of day. For example you would pop in for an update, and others could discuss your post while you hit up your next game or were sleeping. In this format nothing is posted until its approved, therefore there can be no ongoing discussion, therefore making your blog a mere skeleton of what it used to be. Sorry TBC, youre really making the wrong decision here in not going to AVP. Good luck at the tables-PogBoy

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  9. It's simple, buy in for $300 at 2/5 instead of 300 at 1/2. The raises preflop are about the same and there is more money on the table.

    It doesn't matter though cuz your just going to blow that money, you could be sitting in a 2/5 game with, on vbj.

    Now, go back to AVP/VPN!

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  10. You tilt more then anyone on the planet. You better have more then 20k to play 2-5. This blog sucks, go back to AVPN.

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  11. I don't think u have enough for 2 and 5 full time. Well let me ask this. How many places have 2 and 5 that u can play at? Don't be afraid to change tables. Maybe try 1/3 with 500 buyins. 2/5 at venetian for example is twice as deep. I think u can take shots but should concentrate on full buy in 1/2. I think u would be better of at 2/5 than vbj.

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  12. Tony, the more money you put on the table, the worse off you are five bet jamming it all in with AKo

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  13. At times of decisions like this, wouldn't it be nice to have several years' worth of records? Then you could objectively analyze how much you make per hour playing $1-2 and how much you make per hour playing $2-5. If the former was a larger number than the latter, then you wouldn't even have to try to figure out variance and whether you can afford the greater risk, etc.

    Don't you wish you had such records?

    Are you going to start keeping them? Or will you keep doing the same thing--operating by guesswork?

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  14. Tony you would have had your roll at $11600 or more during the WSOP if you hadn't donked off a big chunk of it on the machines. No point in saying, "I wish this, or I wish that," when you are the only one who can stop yourself from playing the machines.

    Why do you want to play 2/5 games and run the risk of getting stuck big time? Plenty of fish in the 1/2 games around Las Vegas and they are so soft. With your lifestyle and your expenses, you only need to pick up a couple of hundred every few days to be way in front, so why risk it?

    I was going to do my trip report in the VPN forum before they announced that they would close down, but now unless you move over to AVP its not worth me doing one because some of my comments will cause much debate, and this is not a suitable format to initate that kind of debate. But I will post some of my stats here for you.

    From June 4 until July 11, I played a total of 22 sessions, all of which were 1/2 nl, except one session of 1/3 nl at Wynn. 17 of those times were winning sessions and I lost playing 5 times. The average time I played each game was about 2 and a half hours. Buy ins varied from $100 to $300 depending where I played. There were no rebuys in any session, but I did put the occasional extra $100 note on the table as back up if required. My average losing session was $110 and my average winning session was $178. I left Las Vegas winning $2370. I kept records of dates I played, where I played, time I played, win/loss for each session. I played when I felt like playing, and got up and walked away from any game whenever I achieved my win goal. I never hit my loss limit of any one total buy in, and I got up and walked away from the game each time I was in a losing session accepting that it was not my day to hit the cards, and did not chase any loses.

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  15. TBC, what are you going talking about your roll with strangers. You're going to get shivved one of these days if you don't stop broadcasting what you have, even if you don't have it all on you at the time.

    And I'll repeat again, you need to go back to AVP, this format is losing you readers.

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  16. waking up, added a ton on comments, and looking thru the comments to see what to address. unlike pokerdogg, ive always thought the $1-3 was lots tighter than $1-2 and should be changed to $2-3 blinds to encourage the SB to stay in and help to loosen it up.

    check out the anon comments made at 1.48pm and 3.55pm those posters give good advice, and should therefore create accounts. so much junk in the anony comments i browse sometimes, im considering someday forbidding all anony comments and then if only ones with accounts can post, then i can let all posts show without needing approval first, so i strongly encourage people to make accounts so this can happen.

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  17. Tony, if you make everyone have an account to comment your comments will look like grrouchies. Face it, everyone has an opinion, and you wont know most of the people making them, so therefore them not showing up as anonymous changes nothing.

    -TJ

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  18. I would ban anon posts now if you are still getting all the stupid posts. If someone wants to post let them join. This way u don't have to read thru that crap everyday. If you could then allow members to post without approval like a forum and ban the people who join just to stir up trouble.

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  19. Tony-

    1/2, 2/5, 5/10 whatever. If you can $500 in a machine you can out $500 on a 2/5 table... My advice never go w/ more than 2 buyins. If u get felted you would have to go to the bank or safe to get more cash. This would give you time to cool down. Who cares if you have to walk or take the bus. My advice, stick to the juicy 1/2 games. Try to build a roll to get a place.. Stay off the machines... Kingofdonks will be in town this Sat for 6 days. Ill will be playing poker AND having FUN in Vegas. contact me if you would like to do either. Tony has my cell

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  20. That is my post at 1:48. You claim it was a good post even though you ignored every single one of my 100 posts I posted on VPN. You only like listening to a very select few and still wont take their advice. So why should I make an account?

    Also if you were to ban all Anonymous posts, than that would reduce amount of posts even more. I will never create an account here as I do not support this idea.


    "It's simple, buy in for $300 at 2/5 instead of 300 at 1/2. The raises preflop are about the same and there is more money on the table.

    It doesn't matter though cuz your just going to blow that money, you could be sitting in a 2/5 game with, on vbj.

    Now, go back to AVP/VPN!"

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  21. Quote Sevencard2003 "...unlike pokerdogg, ive always thought the $1-3 was lots tighter than $1-2 and should be changed to $2-3 blinds to encourage the SB to stay in and help to loosen it up..."

    My experience with 1/3 is limited to one casino (my home casino). It used to have 1/2, but switched to 1/3 about one year ago. The player base hasn't changed. Since the change to 1/3, the games have gotten noticeably bigger. It has not tightened up at all, and sometimes plays a lot like a 2/5 game depending on who is in the game. So far, my win rate is just over 50% better at 1/3 than 1/2.

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  22. Why u so obsessed with being old all of a sudden brah?

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  23. Wow, 13 members here so far...at this rate you should be up to 14 in not time. This blog sucks but you won't listen cuz you're too damned stubborn. Soon you'll be posting to yourself with no readers left.

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  24. Perhaps you should find a lady and ask her for coffee? Or the movies? You seem like a real sweety.

    Vira Lynn

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