Friday, September 2, 2011

in my room at the 4 queens sept 2

what a long day. and ive had a bad cold all day. good news is i won big though. after losing $238 on the VBJ machines at binions, (and not the ones only paying out 98% but instead the ones paying out 97%) i went over to the nugget poker room and bought in for a measly $105. after winning some big pots always against the same black guy who i think was a tourist, i had over $1000 in front of me. one of the big wins came from a board of 10 J 2 flop, i had QK and bet $10 and he called. turn comes 9, i checked dark, he bets $45 and i shove $300 because hes been very loose and rebuying and he instantly calls. 9 pairs the board on the river, worrying me. turns out he has Q8 for the slightly smaller straight. also one flop was 832 rainbow a guy bets $7 he calls, i bet $25, both call. turn comes Q. i bet $60 both call again. river comes 5. i bet $70 allin one guy folds black guy calls with AA.

but when i have too much on the table and im ahead, it hurts my ability to play good poker. for i get too scared of losing back the win and i can actually play a deepstack a lot better if im stuck for then i have no fear. its best for me usually to not buyin too small, or too high. me buying in for $300 is usually about the right amount and its taken me quite a bit of experience with NL live the last few years to learn this. so this is what happened.

2 guys had sat down at the other end of the table about 45 minutes prior and each bought in $1000. well i didnt when they first sat, but at the high point (when i left the game thankfully) my stack was at $1072. and of course that was a rather large win considering i was only in for $343 (when u add the VBJ loss). anyway heres the hand.

i have KK and am on the button. most everyones limped and i know the games loose. so i make it $20 hoping to really narrow the field. i get 2 callers. flop comes 87Q with 2 clubs. the deepstack bets $50 after the other caller checks. and this is probably my first err, but i only call (am going for pot control). other guy folds. turn comes 6. guy bets $30, wtf, why such a small bet? everything told me i should raise but i figured he would put me allin the  second i did. so i only called. river comes 7. he checks and i check. i wouldve made at least a few hundred more, since he has AQ. man did i lose a lot of value. just how would u have played it differently? the size of his stack and the fact i was up was really affecting my ability to play.

so i left went to the nugget bought in $200 and spent the rest of the night playing with tiger valdez and regs and tourists $1-2 NL at binions. new rolls now $11,800 and i must sleep and get ready for tonites drawings. still got that really bad cold.

11 comments:

  1. That KK hand you should have identified that as a hand to play for stacks. You did lose a lot of value there....

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  2. Great job on the POKER.

    Go celebrate by feeding your machine monkey.

    s.i.

    p.s. - this format SUCKS!

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  3. On the KK hand, I think you lost a bit of value, but not as much as you think.

    Against an unknown villain playing 500BB effective stacks, you don't want to go too crazy here. I like the flop call, pot control is important here. I mean, what are you going to do if you raise and villain reraise you? You have no idea how this guy plays, so by all mean pot control.

    The turn bet is really weak, once again you don't know if he did this to sucker you to raise. The board is now super scary, I don't mind the call. (Note: from the betting pattern, this villain seems to be a thinking and competent player, a raise may get him to fold here, counter productive IMO).

    The river is where you lost some value. The board pairing the 7 is actually a pretty good thing for you. Now you beat a couple of flopped 2 pairs hands. He is unlikely to check a full house, and probably not a straight. I would put in a decent sized river bet for value, say around $120. A competent villain will probably pay that bet off, a really good villain may fold, but given you guys don't know each other, he may just pay to see your hand anyways.

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  4. p.s. Playing for stacks with 500BB with an overpair, when the board has straight and full house possibilities against an unknown villain, is a terrible thing.

    p.p.s. There is nothing wrong with taking the profit and go to a new casino when you build up a big stack. Yesterday I did that at a 3/6 game. I made about $2100 after 6 hours, I cashed out, had a nice dinner, and went back into a 1/2 game to finish the evening. I don't the luxury of going to a different casino, so I had to drop down to a 1/2 game. I just didn't feel like sitting with that sized stack when there were several good players with similar sized stack at the table. It reduced my EV to play at the 1/2 game, but it drastically reduced my variance by doing that. It is part and parcel of managing your game. I ended up playing for another 2.4 hours, much more relaxing and still made another $200.

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  5. Tony:

    I lived in Eugene for 4 years - great little city. It's about as far to the left as American towns come, which is great for me but would probably make your head explode.

    It's also very expensive, for a college town. I know why you want to go there, but I thought that motivation was up in Portland. Did said motivation move south a bit?

    s.i.

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  6. Tony, who is Tiger Valdez? I googled his name, and I am wondering if it is Tiger Valdez the poker coach, or Tiger Valdez the gay porno actor you played with. Was he any good?

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  7. tiger valdez the poker coach of course. anyway i was worried if i bet the KK on the river he would check raise me allin possibly on a bluff. didnt want to take the risk. glad that u thought i played the hand mostly corect pokerdogg lester sure didnt and neither did tiger. and im sitting here in my room at the lucky club waiting around for tonites drawing.

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  8. no seattle irish i only want to be in eugene so its a short busride to portland and so i can play poker daily in a nice safe place with NO RAKe and be away from being able to play VBJ. i could find a room there somewhere id think.

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  9. Tony look for a roommate get a safe studio in a condo off the strip, I heard some even have car pick up and drop off, If you could stay off the machines then you can afford this.

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  10. So is this Tiger guy actually any good? As usual, there is no one correct way to play a hand, and you definitely left missed a fair bit of value on the river. There is no reason given the action why you shouldn't make a 1/2 pot value bet against most villains.

    Against a known villain with good read, you can extract more value, but remember you still only have one pair on a fairly coordinated board.

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