Monday, February 11, 2013

how to play $2-6 limit correctly

One big problem with reading hands in $2-6 spread is the old men who sit on their hands preflop and it fucks up my game. hands like AK for instance, they dont raise, they just call the $2. everything id learned says that "aggressive poker is winning poker" instead of passive poker, so how do they beat me by never betting their hands preflop?

anyway here is todays hand history. there is 4 out of 6 of us with overs buttons, and 2 of the players are terrible. the other 2 are a good regular (winning about $550) and an asian named Kenny i won $1200 off in one pot at binions a couple years ago when i was doing good, whose generally an experienced player, but tonight he was on tilt and loose and short of money, talking about a dollar loan center place. his roll has dropped substantially like mine. i do NOT have an overs button because i cant afford risking $200 of my roll, especially not when i bought in for $40 and desperately need that win to get my roll back to $1600 from $1400. I'm only still sitting there hoping to hit aces cracked for $100. (the safest way to grow the roll).

so i get AJ offsuit, and remember the game is 6 max. i am in middle position and raise to $8 over the worst player at the tables limp. kenny, on my left calls. (which i dislike). he says he was going to raise if i didnt, and hes been pretty honest and open about what he has. everyone else drops but the limper, whose stuck about $700. Flop comes K93 offsuit, and the limper, whose a notorious bluffer, but tends to check on the turn to me if hes weak, then bluff the river or bet the tiniest of pairs for value. anyway he bets the flop, and im worried about kenny behind me, so i fold. kenny calls. and continues to call on every street. he wins with AT high, no pair, and im wondering if i messed up.

No point in posting hand histories of hands i know i played well, (except maybe to get stakes) the only reason to post hand histories is the ones i played bad to see if i did anything wrong. agree?

i think donkeytax wouldve loved that game, but he hadnt said hardly a word all day, and didnt answer most of his texts. i am not sure if he played the ceasers tourny with vince dealing or not, i know he was going there at 10pm. And of course, no one wanted to hang out with me on my birthday.

out of frozen meals, pot pies, fruit, icecream, lunchmeat, all ive got left is stuff that has to be cooked like noodles, macaroni, and stuff like mashed potatoes u cook in the micro and soups. I need to grab food at walmart, but im so broke i dont really want to keep this another week come wed. i cannot handle any more of these $174 payments. if i drop any more, things will get much worse, ill lose everything, phone, net, etc. hard to play well when under such pressure. got to get these remaining expenses shut off or a ride back to Jean by wednesday. Laundry is about to need done again, dishes need cleaned, and the microwave desperately needs it, and i still wish i was living an easy busride (NOT multiple bus rides) from an omaha8 game.

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  1. "No point in posting hand histories of hands i know i played well, (except maybe to get stakes) the only reason to post hand histories is the ones i played bad to see if i did anything wrong. agree?"

    No. You should include all hand histories. People have differing perspectives when you post them and just because you won the hand doesn't mean it was played optimally. I think it's wrong to just post the questionable hands - you should note all hands that are memorable.

    As far as you're consideration of calling down AJ high as the winner (which you folded), I think you're going to have to fold at some point if kenny overcalls you. If you call, though, very likely kenny would have folded, fwiw (he has to give you credit for a hand, just as you gave him credit for the hand by folding). I don't think you did anything wrong in the hand.

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  2. Tony:

    Have you hit rock bottom yet? Let us know when you have.

    s.i.

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    1. What cracks me up is he is more worried about the internet and his precious phone, then eating. Maybe if he quit looking at his phone every minute of the day and concentrated on the poker game, he would have much more money to keep the phone and the internet.

      For a guy who has few if any friends, you sure seem to need your phone a lot more than most.

      You waste so much time on phone, internet, keeping the phone charged, this blog, instead of poker, and learning, studying how to play better, and putting the actual time (you should be playing well over 40 hrs per week) in playing.

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  3. Isn't it just so much easier to make wishes than make changes?

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  4. Also, is your only chance of making money in live poker seriously buying into the smallest stakes game for $40 and hoping that you get dealt a 1 in 221 hand that is the best hand in hold em, and try to lose with it rather than win a big pot since it is the best hand and all?

    Honestly if this is your mindset, you're already finished. Might as well go back to panhandling right now.

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  5. "how to play $2-6 limit correctly"

    Don't play it. That is the correct way. You have 13 buyins to 1/2 $100. If you can not beat that game with 13 buyins you do not belong playing poker.

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    1. mixed feelings on this. certainly the 100$ buyins would be superior to $50 at nl he was trying, but 2-6 here is so dam beatable...+probably more suited to tony's trouble with pot control, i dunno why hes struggling so much with it ive seen he is capable of playing correctly, unfortunately when one hand goes as it shouldnt he sometimes deviates from that.

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    2. I have always thought that was such a horrible game, but as you are there, and are watching TBC, maybe I was incorrect in my opinion

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  6. I think purely for the sheer potential irony involved you should go on a VBJ sojourn to the LUCKY CLUB????? TBC @TLC #tripleup???

    Or maybe it is a good time to score another $5K drawing??

    Good Luck, of course....

    Regards, Lester

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  7. I play a lot of limit and sometimes limp preflop with a big hand if I am in late position or in the blinds and there is an aggressive player already in the pot. If I raise here, because I am a fairly tight player, folks are going to know that I am raising for value because I have a decent hand. Because it is limit with low stakes, if I raise i have no expectation to get anyone in front of me out. Because there is an aggressive player in front of me I can rest assured that they will bet my hand for me if I hit the flop and the other tight players are more likely to call the aggressive players bets than they are mine. In other words I can disguise my hand. If at some point in the hand the aggressive player checks because I am following his action I can then bet.

    If these old guys are tight players whether they raise or not you should be asking yourself why they are in the hand.

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    1. if u are in the blind u act first, u cannot bet if he checks. keeping them in lessens ur chances of winning, u end up losing a lot when u arent satisfied with winning $5 preflop.

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    2. That perspective is why you constantly limp with big pairs in early position and constantly lose huge pots with them because you have no idea where you stand.

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  8. Tony, I think you fool very few people with how you play. It just seems to me that playing $2/6 Limit against a bunch of nitty old guys (when we played I was the second youngest at the table many times!)and chasing promotions is not the way to go. I think that most people would agree that your best chances come in the strip poker rooms that feature drunk, loose tourists. We all know, of course, that won't happen because of your many 86's. It is really long past time for you to work at getting yourself back in the good graces of the entire poker community.

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    1. this ^ i sat in for a bit at the sams 2-6 game, some tight %#@#%$sd regs who wont cough up free $ easily and who will have undoubtedly figured out tonys game after a few sessions.

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  9. "You have 13 buyins to 1/2 $100. If you can not beat that game with 13 buyins you do not belong playing poker."

    ^ This is beyond absurd

    "It just seems to me that playing $2/6 Limit against a bunch of nitty old guys (when we played I was the second youngest at the table many times!)and chasing promotions is not the way to go. I think that most people would agree that your best chances come in the strip poker rooms that feature drunk, loose tourists. We all know, of course, that won't happen because of your many 86's. It is really long past time for you to work at getting yourself back in the good graces of the entire poker community."

    ^ This is not absurd at all.

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    1. We were speaking of Ceasars Stock in last post (CZR). I see an author has written a 'bull' piece in response to the bear article I posted in the last discussion.

      http://seekingalpha.com/article/1172451-why-fundamental-analysis-failed-in-caesars-entertainment-s-case

      "The purpose of this article is to detail why Caesars should never have been considered as a short trade and to explain why fundamental analysis alone cannot be relied on to time and evaluate trades."


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    2. If I lost 13 buyins in Las Veagas in 1/2 I would shoot myself. You have to be absolutely horrible. Some years ago, TBC himself expressed this same theory with much less buyins. Now, I would say the same buyin for California would be slightly different as the extremely wild play causes more extreme variance. Given TBCs generally nitty play he does not need as many buyins. So what I said is not absurd at all. You would have to be a pretty incompetent professional poker player not to be able to beat 1/2 in LV on 1300

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    3. WEC, while losing 13 (half) buyins in 1/2 is unusual for a really good player, it is by no means impossible. Tony, is a winning, but not really good player, so his chance of losing all of it is quite real. On top of that, he doesn't have 13 (half) buyins, he need some of that money to live on. His weekly expenses is probably between $250 to $300. If he goes on a one week break even streak, there goes 3 of those buyins. Come on, even a great player like yourself can go on a break even streak of one or two weeks, can't you?

      Having said all that, if I were in Tony's position, I would be giving it the best shot I can in 1/2NL. He can't get out of the hole doing what he is doing right now. Faced with the choice of:

      a) keep doing what he is doing and faced with 90% chance of going bust slowly

      b) faced with 50% risk of going bust, but if things go well can increase his BR substantially

      I will choose option (b).

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    4. i consider myself as having about 3 buyins, with all the rest needed to live on, which is why im not playing NL. i dont think ill go bust slowly unless i play machines. i lost $1100 on machines since coming back from Jean, and of course, thats all been winnings in $2-6 games. so had that been all i played id still be in great shape. not been playing machines for a week though, am proud of myself. tonight was a bitter pill, walking out of samstown down $126 back to only $1400, but i did it without going to a machine. kept thinking of how much i wanted to, but knew i couldnt. came in and cooked some noodles, then got online Lock and started up some $2 sngs still going on. am a little upset a lot of the things good meaning people advise me to do (such as donkeytaxs advice to get an apt) are financially impossible to do. when u get in too deep a hole u cannot get out, but it helps to stop digging.

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    5. the chances are more likely reversed. 90% i go broke if i play NL, and 50% ill go broke slowly this way

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    6. yeah, I am not any great poker player, but I play a nitty style similar to TBCs and you just do not blow through the buyins as much as a more aggressive player. It is rare for me to lose even 2 full buyins in a session, although while TBC is tight, he does tend to shove it in and cost himself full buyins, where it is very rare for me ever to get my chips allin preflop in a cash game. So, maybe TBC shouldn't be playing 1/2 afterall with 100 buyin. But what is he gonna do? Be a 2/6 spread, 2/4 limit holdem player all his professional life lol

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    7. Well, he can just be a machine professional also. Live in Jean the rest of his days.

      Someone just give him $30K already and see what he can do with it...

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    8. I thought we are talking about risk of ruin here, not how many buyins you can lose in one session. They are related, but not the same thing. A better gauge is how much your biggest downswing was in $1/2nl, using half buyins. If you always buy in full, then we have to account for the higher variance when one buys in short.

      I think Tony should play 1/2nl, but I also think he should work on his game and not play machines, so what do I know?

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    9. Tony says..."the chances are more likely reversed. 90% i go broke if i play NL, and 50% ill go broke slowly this way"

      I disagree. While we don't know what your long term winrate is at $2-6 spread limit, I doubt it is as good as your $1/2nl winrate (also a mystery). My guess is less than $5/hour, not good enough to cover your weekly expenses based on the number of hours you say you play.

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    10. I'm not going to go into ALL the reasons why this is absurd but I'll give you a couple. $100 is too short to buy in. The people you should be playing against in Vegas are here for 48 hours, they buy in full and did not come here to nurse a stack which means you have to be deep enough to make them not call. 2.) A couple years ago I went through a month where I couldn't hold off a 2 outer to save my life. FOR AN ENTIRE MONTH I lost over and over and over and over again getting all the money in with way the best of it. Over a large enough sample size this has happened to almost everyone I've ever talked to AT least once. You are the only person I have ever heard say that 13 NOT FULL BUYINS is even approaching enough of a bankroll to play NL when your life depends on it. And I'll play you anytime anywhere you want including California!! I'm around you let me know!!!

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    11. I just don't get it. I offered Tony 200 free chips to play on sealswithclubs and he never responded. I would think a poor person in a situation such as himself would be overjoyed with any handouts he can get... So much for the phrase "beggars cant be choosers..." I guess Tony certainly sees himself as choosy.

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    12. You'll play me anytime Adam Muskie. Wow, you are so cool and must be the best. Cause you will play me anytime. You sound just like the little children who get upset at the table and demand a heads-up dual to prove who is better.

      Well you tell me your great poker resume so I can decide if you are even worthy enough for me to waste my time playing you.

      Live, I play 15/30, 30/60. 40/80 LHE, 1/2, 1/3, 2/5, 5/10 NL; Mixed Games preferring Stud8, PLO, PLO8

      Maybe I am just very tight (or successful), so I do not have recoreded a time in any one month period where I was down 13 units EVER in live 1/2 play for an entire month.

      I don't say I would choose to play $100 in 1/2 with only 1300 at this point in my life, I much prefer full $200 or $300 buyins. But if I were forced to survive with 1300, that is what I would personally do.

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    13. WEC says..."Maybe I am just very tight (or successful), so I do not have recoreded a time in any one month period where I was down 13 units EVER in live 1/2 play for an entire month."

      Again, this is somewhat relevant, but not the same thing. My question is what is the biggest lossing streak you have had at 1/2nl. Just as a way of an example, someone could be down $1300 in the first 3 sessions of the month, but then recover and post a $4000 profit by the end of the month. In Tony's case, he would be wiped out in 3 days and never get the end of the month.

      And once again, what is your definition of a unit? If a unit is 100BB, then $1300 is only 6.5 units. Have you never had a lossing streak of more than 6.5 units?

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    14. Poker amp loser. You think I'm like a little child. You troll a blog of a guy who obviously has enough problems and constantly belittle everything he or anybody else say's. You have EXTREMELY LOW self esteem. That is the behavior of a child. OOOOOO WOOOOOW you play 40/80 and 5-10. Well guess what SO DO I. So like I said fruit loop?????

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  10. http://cardplayerlifestyle.com/25-bad-habits-that-are-costing-you-money-at-the-poker-tables/

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    1. Just want to say that we appreciate the link to our article

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    2. Just want to say I appreciate the link to our article - hope y'all find it useful

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  11. Tony, were you banned from the Harrah's rooms or is this just a rumor? I know we obviously played at Flamingo, etc., in July, and I don't recall you getting banned since.

    Just curious...

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    1. dont u remember my harrahs joliet huge ban post?

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    2. I don't remember it.
      was this on your ill fated forum days?

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    3. Didn't know that was for EVERY Caesar's casino . . . That sucks.

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    4. Actually Tony, what you need to do is start working on getting those bans lifted -- if they even exist in the casino systems today. I would suggest going with someone who could perhaps better articulate things for you and asking to speak with someone in management at one of the Caesars or MGM casinos.

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    5. I think TBC is forgetting a few details here.

      He posted about the incident in Joliet (the infamous Fat Man Slowroll where he threw a fit and stormed off but had to slink back and get his remaining chips as he had the Fat Man covered) but he claimed he just got booted from that property at the time.

      He then eventually made his way back to Vegas and was doing his normal TBC thing (and still playing at Caesars properties) but that Joliet incident eventually caught up to him in some way or another and resulted in him being barred from all Caesars properties -- or at least the LV ones as well.

      This was when he still had the forum going and was deleting any reference to him getting barred. A few people knew about it and would reference it and he'd delete it as soon as he woke up from a nap, etc.

      Eventually he stopped pretending it didn't happen and would admit he'd been barred but he never posted the details.

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  12. "One big problem with reading hands in $2-6 spread is the old men who sit on their hands preflop and it fucks up my game."


    So, what you are saying is that you cannot adapt to the way they play in order to make it profitable for you?

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    1. Of course, when has he ever adapted his game? He's been playing the same way for 20 years.

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    2. i get so many conflicting advice as to how to adapt, its hard to know whose right. and a lot of the advice is from people who know nothing about $2-6, only NL, so its hard to get good advice, or know which advice is good.

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    3. But, YOU are the one who is playing the game.
      You need to study it and learn how to play against these guys who are not going with the basic strategy.
      Since they are using a different strategy YOU need to figure out what would be the best way to counter act it.

      This is a game of tit for tat and adjustments.
      If they do something different you need to figure out how to beat it or stop playing.

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  13. For what's it's worth... I took $200 into the Venetian on Jan 3rd and say at a 1/2 game with the mindset I wanted to win 1k a month. Just over a month later I'm at 2500...yes I did get lucky and run good the first month and I'm back on the upswing of a $1200 Loss weekend but it all evens out to +EV

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    1. The reason why tony can't do this is because most people have the mindset that they'll either try to do it, and if they go broke they'll suck it up and get a job.

      The last thing in the world tony wants to do is get a job, so he'll do everything he can to avoid working, even if that means living the way he is now.

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  14. So you're sitting in a six handed game with two terrible players and a tilted Asian and your only hope of profiting is from having your aces cracked?

    If you can't pull a profit out of a game like that based on your poker skill alone I'm not sure what to tell you, TBC.

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    1. didnt i pull a profit of $168 out of that game yesterday without any aces cracked?

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    2. Results from a single session of poker means nothing, even the worst player in the world wins sometime, otherwise they wouldn't play.

      A better answer would be to tell us your winrate for 2-6 spread, say for the last 500 hours you played. Wouldn't that answer the question much better?

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    3. My fault, TBC. That game of course if profitable and beatable based on what happened yesterday. Congrats on beating poker.

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  15. We were speaking of Ceasars Stock in last post (CZR). I see an author has written a 'bull' piece in response to the bear article I posted in the last discussion.

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/1172451-why-fundamental-analysis-failed-in-caesars-entertainment-s-case

    "The purpose of this article is to detail why Caesars should never have been considered as a short trade and to explain why fundamental analysis alone cannot be relied on to time and evaluate trades."

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    1. I bought puts yesterday at the open ($10 strike) . . . We shall see . . .

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    2. FYI - just read that article. Seriously?

      "The great thing about $158.50 in debt per share, however, is that as an investor I can wager a small amount of money, and not only potentially get an astronomical return, but furthermore, I am not held personally liable for any of this debt. Therefore, Caesars presents an attractive risk/reward opportunity from the long side given proper money management principles."

      Seriously?

      But seriously . . . that dude's "analysis" is laughable.

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    3. I kinda understand what he is saying there, but his main point is based on Technical Analysis, which I am sure you know is a whole different animal and has (technically) nothing to do with the debt they have, the profits they generate or any other factual analysis except the pattern of the chart.

      I am more of a fundamentalist, but always pay attention to the chart as well.

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    4. Good Luck with your Puts PPP. What Month do you have?

      I will watch the stock the next several days now, just for the interest factor since I saw quite an interesting move today and yesterday. Huge Volume yesterday 5.1 Million Shares, and it calmed down significantly to 1.3 million today.

      What was interesting is the stock really spiked up in the middle of the day to 13.14 after it started the day continuing the downtrend with a move right to the low of the day 12.27 Then boom, spike up, then sellers came in to bring it back down, then a real nice spike which brought it to high of the day, then a long gradual fall, with another spike up, and down lol

      There was a powerful close up from 12.28 (it got almost all the way back to the days low) to 12.41 with large volume, and it continued to go up in afterhours trading to 12.55.

      It looks like there is definitely a group looking to push this thing higher and I would be interested in your take after todays trading. I'm thinking the pattern you would have expected is mostly down after Mondays action.

      Of course, one day does not mean anything, but todays trading seemed troublesome for a bear in the short-term. But whichever way it is going, there sure seems to be an opportunity for some real short-term trading. The range on the March 12.50 Call was 1.06 to 1.50 sweet. I will look at the bid/ask tomorrow but Im guessing with the somewhat low open interest in the options, that they are killing you in the spread if you want to make a lot of short-term trades.

      Interesting also that the call/put ratio favors the calls through March, then tilts in favor of the puts for June, and really favors the puts in Sept.

      Some money to possibly be made on this one, one way or the other.

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  16. Tony, you do realize the money you're getting from AA cracked is the money that you pay for the jackpot drop right?

    You're just getting your own money back..

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    1. not true because the really loose players contribute far more to the jackpot drop. but yet have the same chance of losing with aa. i am getting back more than i put in with aa promos, that wouldnt be true if i was in a room offering a BBJ where only 2 people get all the profits while most others lose.

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    2. While it may be true you get a small +EV from these promos, the way these promos make you play far outweights the small bit of gain. You should be playing your AA exactly the same way, with or without the aces cracked promo, but you don't.

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    3. Chasing promos or comps is like a dog chasing a car does not last to long.

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  17. Best of luck to you in Jean. Are you counting on free rooms for life from playing Jean VBJ?

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  18. Tony:

    Are you unwilling to seek social services? For the longest time, you said you couldn't get social services because your roll was too big. Is it still too big?

    It's too damn cold, and you're too damn old, to be living on the streets again. The next time you're out on the streets, it's likely to be your last. It's a scary place out there.

    You need to seek help.

    s.i.

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  19. let me know tomorrow (12th) afternoon if your playing at sams, i can swing buy and bring you subway if you want, you need some protein, doubt i can play long maybe a tad bit.

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  20. Tony:

    You need a plan. Going back to Jean and living there for the rest of your life is not a viable plan.

    You have a disability. There are services there to assist you (housing, food support, medical support, job training, etc...) I know you think that whole thing is beneath you (aside from the "free housing"), but it's not.

    It really seems that you're choosing to live on the streets rather than participate in something like Opportunity Village or another job program. It's not the choice I would suggest you make, but I do respect your right to make your own life choices.

    I'm rooting for you -

    s.i.

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  21. Tony, you really need to try to stop being so negative and bitter all the time.

    You're driving off your friends with that attitude. Nobody wants to be around a bitter old man all the time. Like when someone told you to try to have some fun for your birthday the first thing you say back is "why don't you pay for it."

    If you want to know why you don't have any "true friends" this is the reason. A friendship is a relationship. It goes both ways. All you do is take. Like if someone gets you a comped meal, the least you can do is pick up the tip on it. If someone gives you a ride somewhere, you should OFFER them some money for gas, even if it's not part of the agreement. Yeah, this costs money, but it also keeps your friends around longer

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  22. Tony I don't know you but I would be willing to help you out with what your friend posted above. I wouldn't want to go to any of the MGM or CET properties I frequent but I would pick you up at Sams town and take you to Harrahs or the Quad and sit down and play. After an hour if no swat team swarmed us I would ask for you your status at the properties and if there was a problem I would see if you could fix it. I would then buy you lunch and take you down to Excalibur or mandalay Bay where I never play and we could do the same for the MGM properties. You need to stop playing against retired locals during the day. If you don't have the roll for NL at least see if you can play $3-6 at the mirage. You could win a buy in a day in that game over the long term. in the short term thats enough to keep a roof over your head and slowly build a roll. Stop playing those gutter pigs at boulder station and at least give yourself a chance. Let me know if your interested.

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    1. You understand it is possible he can be arrested by Police by showing up at these properties? This is not the way to do it in a grown up, mature, intelligent fashion. An intelligent person shows up and speaks to the poker room manager and then goes in the direction he is pointed from there...

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    2. Great idea to offer to take Tony into a property that he's been 86'd from ...

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    3. They aren't going to arrest him if he has somebody with him who knows how to talk to people and has as many hours playing at those properties as I do. This isn't 2008. Many of these rooms need players.

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  23. tony says he wants to go back to jean...to try and eek it out on VBJ where he claims comps will combine to give him a .33% edge, i disagree since i dont see comps as $, its trading -ev on $ for some comps, just a bleeding strategy and if your can get better than a .33% edge at the poker tables in vegas i have no idea how you want to be a poker player, and if you dont want to be a poker player (not that this exclusive you may very well still be) your just suffering gambling addiction in general and you probably need to get a job and get back on benefits asap. my opinion. tony i very much doubt youl find anyone that will say going to jean to try and run your net worth through a machine all day for hotdogs and low end rooms is a good idea.

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  24. Option 1. Suck it up, put on your nicest shirt and clean pants, and go into every property you THINK you are banned, and speak politely to the poker room manager. Tell him you haven't been on the property in 5 years or however long, and say that you'd like to be reinstated, and ask what you need to go thru.

    Option 2. Go into a banned property (like a harrah's or somewhere where you didn't get thrown out of that EXACT hotel.) Sit down, DONT give them a players card, play poker and keep your MOUTH SHUT. You should say 3 words at the poker table. Call, Raise and fold. That's IT.
    I guarantee no one will bother you. They don't have your picture memorized.

    Go to Binion's and see option 1 above.

    Apply for govt help. Grow a set.

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    1. Tony, Option 1 is SOUND ADVICE. You need to do this. You really have nothing to lose - the worst thing that can happen is they'll say NO and ask you to leave.

      Just be polite, and everything should work out OK.

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    2. Tony will not get back into Binions. He was banned from there previously, as a result of his behaviour in the poker room. Then they re-instated him after a fairly lengthy ban. After that re-instatement he was warned by security on several occasions about his attitude, his tantrums, his behaviour towards other patrons and his racist comments and remarks. I personally witnessed two of these blow ups at Binions as a result of losing sessions on the VBJ machine. I warned him of the consequences if he kept it up, and told him that unless he pulled his head in and stopped acting like a dipshit, he would get banned and lose a great place to play and build up comp dollars cheaply playing poker. He chose to ignore me, and a week or so later he wrote in his blog that he had been banned from Binions. It was bullshit, he was looking for sympathy. About a week after that bullshit episode it actually really did happen. He had a monumanetal blowup on the vbj machine, insulted other patrons, was warned by security. He promptly abused the security and told them he would get them sacked. Stormed into the casino hosts office, and behaved in a threatening manner there. He was eventually subdued by security, then frog marched over to 4 Queens by Security where he had been staying on comp dollars built up at Binions. He was ordered to pack his bags and check out immediately, and was told in no uncertain terms not to ever come back to either 4 Queens or Binions.

      Tony shit in his own nest at Binions, he is now too well known there to try and ever get back into Binions. They don't need his rude disgusting behaviour. All his other bans have been pretty much for the same kind of behaviour, either at table games, poker or blow ups on machines, or because he was accused of some other type of inappropriate behaviour whilst in the casino. Tony is his own worst enemy.

      If he runs back to Jean, which is highly likely in the near future, he had better be on his best behaviour there, as he has already stepped on a few toes there. The same applies to Laughlin.

      Koala

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    3. I bet he could get back into Binion's if he put on a Luis Guzman disguise???

      Regardless, Lester

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    4. Binions is a lost cost, but there are a dozen other casinos he got banned from years ago, he may have a chance to reinstated.

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  25. Sams Town runs a free shuttle to downtown and another one to Harrahs. that will save u the buses

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  26. s.i.'s advice is the best. Tony, you should look into assistance from social services. In addition to helping you out with housing, et cetera, they may also be able to start you down the path towards a job. You do not play poker all that much, all things considered. I'd bet you could work (even part time) and still manage to play as much poker as you currently do. The job would give you some security, and would also be a way to meet new people.

    The time to begin this process is NOW, while you still have some money left. it will be much more difficult when you are flat broke. Although I don;t know for sure, I'd imagine the process may not be immediate, so having a little bit of cash to float on while you investigate the process would be a good thing.

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    1. Tony doesn't want to work. He's too good to expend effort in obtaining money.

      If he goes broke, he will just panhandle because he is entitled to YOUR hard earned money due to his slight disability and the world being taught to hate white people.


      As for social services, he's in. As long as you do it for him.

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  27. will reply to a few comments when im not in a rush to sleep, shouldve never played nearly as long, put in about 15 hours at the table today, and couldve once had a decent profit had i not started the day playing stud. play seriously deteriorated in the last 30 min as usual, and then lost over $60 on VP, new roll $1200, and i moved out of my apt and i have a few things with Vince he cannot store for me. details tomorrow and no im not in Jean, not yet anyway, still want to try a couple poker options.

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  28. Tony its time to go back home to Kansas, go spend some time with your son and mother. Regroup and get on social services while you stay at your mothers. Once you get back on assistance move back to Vegas and take a shot.

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  29. dropped in for an hour at sams last night, lost $100 in about 30min, i cant play 2-6 for $#%# now, have trouble taking it seriously in regards to proper play. a few thoughts on the game...same exact players as the one other time i went...very tight no tourists and little drinking...it is perhaps beatable but seems pointless, soooo much better options elsewhere. tony what you said highlights my point, you complain about spending hours on the bus to go somewhere better because you could just be playing at sams, however hours on the buss then a profitable 6-8 hours is infinitely better than no bus and 15 hours netting a loss.

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    1. DonkeyTax, Tony is not willing to put the work in to be a winning poker player, laziness is his biggest leak in life and in poker. The only time Tony does not let laziness get in his way is to play a machine.

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