Wednesday, February 20, 2013

Low stress here, for the most part anyway, but of course im not going to grow my roll either unless i do it on lock

sitting in my room reading this article http://www.wikihow.com/Wash-Clothes-by-Hand and playing some $6 DON 6 max sngs. how many of those would vook recommend i play at a time? been playing 1 because 6 max is a little more complex than 10 max. am still only in the $900s, but i managed to recover $67 today, im exactly $12 better off than i was when i first got to Jean.

played a ton of hours tonight, and still only earned $15 in comps today. saturdays room is always so difficult, to earn $30 in comps at these microstakes. yet its the only casino in the entire world giving FREE rooms on a saturday for only $3000 in coin in. theres been many times ive put in far more in coin thru than that in vegas casinos when i had a big roll, and got nothing in the way of comps. Most people in vegas would love that kind of deal on a saturday. im sure PPP put more than that thru at harrahs in 1 day and got very little. his 1200 tier credits was $12,000 coin thru. But think how easy, and fast these rooms would be and how quickly id pile up the comps if i was out here with a $20,000 roll.

Ran into someone i think id seen before, possibly George from Roughing the punter, but not sure now that i think about it. he would be the one to turn to for advice on what to bet and to ask a question about the play of a hand if unsure. Thank God for Cutter telling me about this place. Just wonder how id do here even if i had a roll as little as $5000.

oh and its nice to be able to use the net without constantly getting disconnected and being told i have an IP conflict with another computer, which used to happen quite a bit when living in large apt complexes. im so far away from others computers i no longer have that issue anymore. and i dont think anyone tried to open that X i couldnt open in the previous post since no one mentioned it.

yeah the only way to really grow the roll would be to do it with the money that was sent to me on lock. have $97 there, give or take, depending on the outcome of this sng. Its not really a stake because all im supposed to do is pay back the $50 whenever my roll gets back to 4k, so its really a loan of sorts. Still ill need to withdraw some of it off if i start winning a lot and it starts getting high, ill be damned if this site shuts down on me while im got significant money on there. im thinking maybe keep $150 on there, (10 $15 buyins) and just withdraw whatever is over a little at a time, that way i get steady income like maybe $100 a week if im winning. Remember a lot of what grew the roll last time i was in Jean was wins on lock, about $200 worth or so.

an automated email went out by Grump to everyone, that listed his new email, etc, and it also included his cell. (i'm wondering if he realized that when he sent it to me?) of course hes got nothing to worry about, id never publish it here or misuse it in any way. I doubt he personally selected who received the email, seeing Claudia's email listed as one of the recepients, i think it got mass mailed to everyone of his contacts.

and since when did stump develop an interest in wanting to be a poker dealer? was surprised to see his twitter feed yesterday. also would like to know in advance whenever anyone is driving thru Jean on the way to cali or vegas.


51 comments:


  1. I read the tbc blog. Tony is getting advice out the ying yang. Unfotunately none from anybody with a gambling background.

    I dont know how to post on his blog but tony if you are reading this. Spread 1-10 on one fucking spot. Try to play alone. You need comps and low fluctuations. For months probably. No wal mart. No sngs. Use comps to buy noodles instead of spending money.

    Those people that post on your blog are not helping you stay off ssi or of the streets. You have no fucking choice. The game is beatable. You should have been playing it with a bigger roll. Too late now for that. Focus on playing it with a small roll.

    Stop blogging. Do laundry in sink. Stop with lock poker and sngs. Sleep play repeat. Spread and count. Count and spread. 1 unit only on negative counts. One hand. That game has cut card effect and multiple hands at table destroy you with 40 percent pen at best.

    Someone get this message to tony b4 he is broke.

    "the above is a post from Cutter, who claims he dont know how to post on my blog". Posting on the blog is easy if u open a google acct, or have an AIM instant messenger acct. takes less than 5 minutes to create. be aware the post wont appear immediately, i will have to approve it first, also the following post was also made by Cutter.

    "

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    I dont think tbc's critics fully understand....

    1. How much tbc has received from casinos. Multiple times his largest reported roll.

    2. If tbc was just a little more competent at all his chosen forms of gambling his fortunes would be reversed. He would be looking to invest bankroll in other things.

    The do understand that tbc doesnt necessarily take good advice. Often he is his own worst enemy.

    The binions was the nutz. He fucked that up. All his learning and experience comes down to the next 28 days in jean. Reality tv isnt even this good. Can he learn from the past? Can he get his head together and do this right? Will the gambling gods deal him the death blow?
    "

    posting this now, and the long thought out reply will shortly follow below

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  2. I'm not getting much comp offers anymore in the way of rooms and free play, due to playing far less than i was with the much larger roll, and a poor choice of what i played last year. Chose the wrong casinos alot. also i lost a lot in very poor games i shouldnt have played at all, (not the video BJ but others). and that includes even money BJ too. (simply cause thats all some casinos had).

    Playing only 1 spot doesnt let me get a wide enough spread, and with more spots, i can decrease the variance by dividing up lets say a $12 bet into 2 bets of $6 or 3 bets of $4. this really reduces the swings, which is very good for my state of mind.

    of course on negative counts its usually 1 spot $1, unless im just betting more than one spot of $1 to speed things up, and since its +ev without counting if comps included. (dont really want to sit there 20 hours saturdays to get to $3000 coinin). im usually lucky enough to get an empty table.

    this is because i try to play nights. u dont want to buy noodles here, its 6x as much as it is at walmarts. wish u could bring me some cheap food. and of course, the blog helps to benefit me, every so often i get a stake, loan, or some type of assistance id not have otherwise. just wish i was selling ads on the blog again.

    and since i was sent $50 on lock, yeah im gonna be grinding on lock. if i could get $25 a day on lock, thats more than i can expect in that game since ive got no roll, so i should try and grind out $25 a day on lock til i grow the roll.

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  3. Sounds like you're getting super advice from Cutter and Steve G and you'll be rich in no time and known around the world as one of the best VBJ grinders ever.

    Isn't it amazing how receptive and responsive you are to advice that encourages you to play more machines? And how you immediately dismiss and come up with excuses to ignore any advice that encourages you to get a job or to do what it takes to get back on SSI?

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  4. Tony -> Only Yoi can figure out how many SNGs to play at once. My ROI doesn't drop much till I get to 6-8 tables. How ever with the rakeback on merge it was more $$ per hour for me to play 20-25 tables at once deposited the big drop in ROI per table. Now that merge changes their rakeback I'm playing closer to 8-12 tables and watching the tables while mixing turbo MTTs

    On lock I could only play about 8-10 at once because the software is so bad for multitabling. In fact I was better off mixing other sites

    I'm not playing much on lock much anymore due to the software and the difficulty of cashing out as well as concerns on their future.

    U have to learn how to multitable. It takes skill as u add tables over time. U shouldn't play more than four tiled at once till u feel comfy. You have to figure this out. I did it by tracking my play, studying, analyzing, etc.

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  5. Also I play the highest DoNs that run and lock DoNs just don't run as high that often. I play the 6max there when I play since they run a little more at higher stakes.

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  6. Just pulling the last comment of yours from the last post over here so no one misses it:

    sevencard2003 February 20, 2013 at 5:05 AM

    i dont think its morally right for poor people to use their govt money to pay for their living expenses. they should invest it and let it grow so they dont ever need the assistance in the future, this will cut the deficit and save the taxpayers money and they should all appreciate me for feeling this way.

    if everyone had to gamble for a living, and people were just left to die who couldnt survive off gambling, what a wonderful, more compassionate and caring world this would be. then people could understand and relate to why people get mad when they lose to cocksucking retards, and theyd quit condemning others for not knowing how to find work.

    Those who gamble should be considered God's (and worshipped as such) for knowing how to use their brain to earn money instead of their fists.

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    1. I had reposted this as well but yours must have been further up the approval queue. I framed this tbc repost as "epic"

      Regardless, Lester

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    2. Reading Tony's post above makes me wonder whether he suffers more from pathological narcissism than autism. I say that while allowing for the possibility that he is just trolling his own blog.

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    3. It makes me sad that this TBC statement isn't getting more love. This is quite possibly the most awesome thing he's ever said...and that's saying a lot.

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    4. I've been struggling with it, particularly "Those who gamble should be considered God's..." God's what? God's servants? God's messengers? God's rent boys? Unless Tony means "gods," in which case... Whoopsie! There he goes breaking one of the Ten Commandments again.

      God's lavatory attendants? God's bad machine inspectors? God's... Nope... Don't get it.

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    5. I can't even get to the mystery of God's (unknowable).

      I get stuck at the idea of a wonderful, more caring, compassionate world where everyone has to gamble and the losers who can't survive from their gambling prowess are left to die.

      That's a pretty bold statement from someone who has been in active beg mode for months now and only had a bankroll to begin with thanks to SSI.

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    6. Oh I assumed Tony was being archly comedic, exploiting the irreducible contradiction that if everyone gambled for a living there would be nobody to make them machines on which to gamble.

      Can anyone remember if it is Leviticus or Deuteronomy in which are told: "And those that hath not the smarts to martingale shall collapseth and perish most horribly whilst the gambling man shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven and be given mashed potatoes."

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    7. I think what he is trying to say is that people who gamble for a living should be "considered as gods" (and be worshipped as such).

      Unfortunately, most people probably just think they are "cocksucking retards".

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  7. Tony, I can't even imagine how boring it must get to have to run $3,000 coin-in through the machines all day at a dollar or so at a time, especially given how slow the BJ game deals hands. Yes, I ran a solid $12,000 or so through VP on Sunday. I played on-and-off nearly all day (in between delightful adult beverages), and it is a chore (it's fun for an hour or so, then it just becomes a mission . . .). I certainly would not want to do that often; definately not everyday out of necessity.

    Spend some time thinking up a new plan, sir.

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    1. PPP would your VBJ grind be different if you receive one M&m for each hand of VBJ you played? More importantly, if that were the case would you:

      a) eat M&M as soon as you got it?

      b) wait until you accumulated a dozen or so M&Ms and then chew them by the mouthful

      c) would you accumulate all the M&Ms during the session and try to sell them in one pound zip log bags to passersby at the end of the session?

      Just curious, Lester

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  8. The powerball drawing is Feb 20th 10pm eastern.

    01-27-30-38-48 pb=28

    Good luck (of course), Lester

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  9. So in other words, whoever gave you the $50 is never going to see that money again.

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  10. found the perfect job opportunity for you.

    http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/csr/3630021150.html

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    1. Men of Faith Ministries Inc sounds legit Tony!

      Go for it!

      Regards, Lester

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    2. I suggest Tony's first sermon should be taken from Job 16, which I will now recite.

      Cough. Ahem. A-HEM! HACKKKK!!! (sry furball)

      1 An then Job says,
      2 I knows all teh things you be sayin already! Youz FAIL at comfurtin dis kitteh!
      3 Why waste ur breath tellen me wut are haz no meaning! Why you be all, liek, attack'n me an stuffs?
      4 I mean, if I wuz you an you wuz me, I could totally pwn you all, rite hear rite now,
      5 but I iz never ever gunna do that. I would bez all liek helpin youz an stuffs. For reals!

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    3. it is a legit thing... i know somebody who did that when they were down and out.

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  11. Tony I would suggest listening to Cutter. Maybe the people on your blog don't realize that it is possible to sustain oneself as an advantage player in Vegas (or Jean) but what would you expect from a group of regular 9-5 working stiffs who play recreational poker? Grinding a slightly positive ev play might not be glamorous but eventually you will build your bankroll - albeit slowly because you aren't working with a lot of capital. Why Cutter threw you a bone only he knows but he is a bonafide professional gambler and his advice should be weighted appropriately. Being an AP could possibly be the best fit for your limited skill set - maybe not because you are well suited to be a professional gambler but your mental and physical disabilities don't leave you with a lot of options.

    You really should think about cutting all expenses (phone, internet, etc) until you build your bankroll to the point that these expenses don't result in a negative monthly cash flow. And forget about the micro stakes poker except for recreation. You aren't Stu Ungar, hell you're not even Jamie Gold. You haven't put in enough work to become a winning poker player. Even if you understood the math 100%, which Stuey seemed to instinctively grasp, he had two other attributes that you will never possess. First he had a savant like ability to read people, a skill you could probably not develop even if you tried due to your autism. Second he had a total disregard for money. Money meant nothing to him and therefore was not at all risk adverse. This also allowed him to take advantage of other peoples tendency to be risk adverse. You are just the opposite and are probably the definition of scared money. Not only are you scared money but you advertise that fact to anyone within earshot. Why do you think you always "run bad" when your bankroll is low? Not only do you play badly when your bankroll is low but out of the 8 people sitting at the poker table there are a few people at the table who realize this and take advantage of it - effectively increasing your risk of ruin substantially. Even if you are a better player than everyone at the table (and you probably aren't) if the other players can collectively force you to over bet your edge you will eventually go broke. Letting the other players know how little you are working with enables them to exploit this and it will eventually break you. The other big thing Stu had going for his was his ability to get backers. These backers didn't care that Stu was a degenerate gambler and addict because he was an honorable one. Being a degenerate was actually good for his backers as they would always be needed. They didn't care that Stuey would redistribute whatever money he won to his bookies or drug dealers as this kept him on the hook and made the backers necessary. Unfortunately your low moral character makes finding a backer impossible. The only way to back you and not get cheated would be to have someone with you 24/7 to watch you. I heard a funny story once of a guy hired to play a +ev on an old coin in machine. Not only did the backer make sure that there was always someone playing near the guy but they would weigh the guy before and after each session to make sure he wasn't swallowing or otherwise rat holing coins. Unfortunately this is about the level of trust you have proven to deserve.

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    1. Sing it, brother. George, Steve G, and Cutter truly are the three wise men leading TBC to the promise land.

      They're right of course and the only reason you've lost $15K or so in the last 18 months is because you're running bad.

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    2. George is full of horse manure, ive always paid every backer immediately after the tourny/cash game ended. everyone whose staked me knows im trustworthy. were i not trustworthy, and didnt have a problem with lying id have signed up for food stamps long ago. also remember the time i needed to sell $1000 on pokerstars a few years ago for immediate cash? koala sent me the $1000 western union FIRST, and i sent him the $1000 on pokerstars not until the next day, after i'd already collected the $1000 in cash at the wu office in vegas. a lot of people who are dishonest wouldnt have sent it, (after getting the cash) theyd say screw him, he lives in australia, i found a sucker, and ill just now resell the cash to someone else so i get the money again.

      a lot of things like that prove im honest with money. Got a lot more moral values than most people. most people think nothing of lying to the govt, cheating on their wife or girlfriend, or having an abortion, and say the hell with God.

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    3. I can confirm that this is true. I did do a $1000.00 cash exchange for Tony about two years ago, when he needed cash in a hurry. I trusted him to transfer the money from stars which he did a day or so later. No problems.
      Koala

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    4. Somebody offered to stake you in poker (a Caesars tournament, if I recall correctly) if you had gone some period of time without playing machines before the date specified. You lied and told him that you had abstained from machines so that you would get the stake, then later admitted that that was a lie, and you had, in fact, been playing the machines all along.

      Then there was the time a few months back when you had made a verbal agreement to sell a comped hotel room to somebody for a price you both agreed to, but then you later decided it was worth more, so you unilaterally reneged on the deal. Not sticking to an agreement you have made is a form of dishonesty. It shows a lack of integrity.

      So when you say that you don't "have a problem with lying" and that you are "trustworthy" and that you are "honest with money," it's just not true--by your own previous admission. That doesn't mean that you are dishonest every time. But you ARE dishonest SOMETIMES.

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    5. Tony, why are you not approving certain posts that are 100% true, but not insulting in terms of personal attacks or other form of trolling?

      Also, with every post getting 50 or more comments, why not bring back the forum?

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    6. This is true. TBC will not approve my posts

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    7. Grump -
      I was playing with Tony the day after his Tourney Stake that you speak of.
      I was sitting at a table with TBC and the staker when Tony admitted to lying about not playing so that he could get the free tourney buy-in.

      This was part of the reason why I backed away and stopped playing and talking to Tony as much as I was.

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    8. You've told us about several different times you didn't take stakes seriously such as:

      1) Getting tired and shoving so you could go sleep.
      2) Dusting off cash game stakes by playing a super-laggy style (instead of your normal uber-nit style) because it's not your money.
      3) Repeatedly lying about your machine play to get stakes and head-pats.

      There are also other ways to be untrustworthy aside from money that spill over to people not trusting you about anything (including money).

      Claudia trusted you to not tell the world about what a tiger in the sack you are or to blast her name and her phone number to the world.

      Britney trusted you to not post chat logs with her and her personal information.

      Ignoring all that, most backers want a horse that has a proven track record and ROI. Stakes are investments, not handouts.

      Your only answer to questions about proving that you're a profitable poker player is to babble on about them records you kept for a few weeks on your phone that prove you're a winning poker player.

      No backer in the world is going to hand you money based on that. You'll get some handouts here and there but not because anyone trusts you with money or thinks you're a profitable investment at the poker tables.

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    9. I reminded tony of certain blasphemous and un-godly things he likes to do, and he struck them down from his throne of righteousness and refused to approve the post.

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    10. Grump, the same guy who i didnt mention the machine play last year one time to make sure he didnt change his mind about the stake, obviously is no longer pissed at me, for hes the same guy who sent me the $50 thru vook to put on lock and to not pay back til i am at $4000 someday. Yes i know i shouldve mentioned the machines, but i think hed planned to stake me anyway, and just wanted to try and help keep me off the machines at that time.

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  12. Your insistence that it is ok to ask individuals for handouts but somehow immoral to take money that you most likely qualify for from the government just isn't logical. What you need to understand is that social services in the US are paid for by the people through their taxes. People pay taxes to fund these programs so that they don't have to directly interact with people like you. You want "rich" people to pay taxes AND provide you with handouts? That just doesn't make sense. Here is an idea. Get on SSI and if you are worried about going over the $2000 resource limit any time you get to $1999 take $125, throw it in a $25 VP machine and hope for a 100k royal. Or you could send any excess to your mom to compensate her for taking care of your son. If you sent her an amount significant enough that she could start saving (unlikely but she would probably have one hell of a farm on Farmville) you could get her to bequeath it to you when she kicks the bucket. I don't like the latter option as the money would more likely end up in the hands of the Westboro Baptist Church when she dies. You could also just lie to the government and squirrel the money away in your sock. You already are guilty of failing to file taxes so what is a little SSI fraud added to the mix?

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  13. Tony why aren't you playing the 2-table dons on Bovada?

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  14. Congrats on being on "low stress" mode.

    Bummer to be subjected to this, but better than the streets:
    "Rooms are some of the worst I've ever stayed in. Terrible stench throughout the hallways. Elevators creaky and old. No hot water in the showers. Old furniture, TV tubes, wonky HVAC. One night somebody pulled the fire alarm at 12:30am.

    Good play for gas, can't see how you stand staying in that hotel for 2 months though. There is NOTHING there. Wireless Internet is $10/day"

    Of course, if you do not stop this type of behavior quoted below from someone who saw you in Jean in December 2012, you will not be staying in your "low stress" place for very long.

    "You were also bitching to some of the casino staff in the hallway by the elevators at some point later on"

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  15. Take the advice above and play live blackjack. Count cards and go on a heater. It can happen. The worst thing that can come of it is you get banned for counting. But by this point you should be up a few k.

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    1. well thats impossible of course. no live game lets u bet $1-10 and gives u back 1% in comps and still offers the same excellent rules. and of course the house dont pay attn to ur machine bets like they do ur table bets.

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  16. ^the bet sizes he would be making would not garner any attention from the house. if you really can keep a decent count tony this may be an option, have a feeling you might revert to martingaling or something though if you had a bad down swing though.

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  17. Tony:

    Remember the plan stuff we talked about? Are you making progress on putting one of those together?

    s.i.

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    1. plan is to wait to hear from sickcallmggee who might ride me up to vegas and back this weekend, for the sole purpose of visiting a laundry, buying food, and going by the main welfare office on MLK and rancho to try to get the medical card.

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    2. Remember the welfare office is open 8-5 monday thru friday

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    3. Remember the welfare office is open 8-5 mon thru fri

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    4. That's a fantastic start, Tony. Kudos.

      If you are able to accomplish that, I'll be impressed.

      s.i.

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  18. im finally $89 better off than i was when i came to Jean, and Cutter and his friend are over here playing deuces wild machines. he never ever plays any machine unless it pays out over 100%, and doesnt understand why i did. he says i wont go broke on the VBJ if i play it the way he tells me to, and ill earn a very very tiny amount of cash too but mostly rooms. he insists i limit my spread from $1 to $10, never bet more than one hand $1 on a negative count, and to quit playing 3 spots and to stick to 1 or 2. something about what he calls the "cut card effect?" or something like that, i couldnt understand the reason for not playing 3. made no sense to me.

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    1. It's the idea that you reach the cut card (shuffle-point) quicker on good counts because the average number of cards per hand is higher.

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    2. thats why in good counts, i normally switch back from 3 hands of $1, or $2, to consolidating all the money on 1 hand, by betting one hand of $5, $6, $7 $8 etc. that way i get more hands in before the shuffle comes up. the reason i need to have 3 spots available, is because some times i need to bet as high as $20 or more (far more than the 1% of my roll) on exceptionally good shoes, and the only way to do that is go like 3 hands of $7 each to reduce the variance a little. if i had a much larger roll and reducing the variance wasnt important, and i could spread up to $100 on one hand, this wouldnt be necessary. but i feel like i need a wider spread than just $1-10 to have a strong enough edge.

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    3. $30 a day in comps...wooweeee

      If you worked that 8 hours in some nothing job that didn't take much effort probably, at even the lowest possible wage...$7.25 per hour, that would be $58 SURE dollars in your pocket. Now, over a weeks time (5 days of work), that would be $290, much more than $1160 over a month of working. That is more than your current BR in less than one month.

      Since you spend so little. You would accumulate probably more money than you have ever had before in less than a year. And this is guaranteed money. Not some pipedream. There is little chance you will be over 10K from gambling in the next year, but actually working some nothing job, you could surpass all those wasted years of your life pretty quickly, and have real money in your pocket.

      If you had done this work thing after you got your 18K SSI backpays + monthly $600 payments, you would have tons of money to spend, live in apartment, have girlfriend, etc.

      Instead, the lazy bum gambler is almost broke again, living in cheap conditions, in the middle of absolutely nowhere. Will you ever get smart? And live like a normal human being?

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  19. i was going to go thru and reply to posts, but i never found the time, was too busy playing online sngs, and now have to get back to work on the VBJ. sickcallmggee is coming at 6.30am to take me into vegas, to see about getting a medical card, to go by a laundry, and to grab food items. he needed a room here at the goldstrike instead of gas money. am still $88 better off than i came to Jean with, and still got about $91 on lock, surviving, but not really gaining much. but without this option, things wouldve gotten far worse in vegas. i shouldve never left it to begin with.

    sickcall will also bring me to the samstown freeroll march 10, where it will be immediately chopped and ill get maybe the same $135 i got on the chop last month, which ill share a portion with him. he is moving into an apt in vegas from laughlin with his wife and kids march 1.

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