Thursday, February 14, 2013

Plummeting towards $0 and ive moved out of my apt and no longer have anywhere to live

well, not entirely true, have a room 1 more day here at tx station until fri, after that im not sure where i am going. cant find anyone to drive me to Jean, and offered $25 gas, or a carton of cigarettes with boyd gaming comps, which costs me $90 comps but no cash. vince says he can on sunday, that dont solve the problem of the weekend. also have considered an airport or bus out of town, if i go broke, i do not want it to be in vegas, but in somewhere fresh.

people will be happy to see i have several hand hisrories i want to post this time, because i am seriously questioning and second guessing all of my plays. the variance everyday to day is unreal and is killing me, and thats why im not keen at all at working on getting bans lifted to play on looser games on the strip like a few misguided and well meaning souls keep suggesting, thats something i should do when i can afford those strip games and not until. as we have found out before its also something its not a good idea to do until i am positive my mailing address will remain the same for a LONG time. and now i no longer have an address for my bank again.

new roll is $1200. and not one dollar over which isnt usually the case. usually when i say $1200, its actually like $1273 or something. one of the reasons why its so low is tonights $71 loss, and the $30x 3 for my rooms here up til friday checkout, and the $93 phone bill being deducted out of my bank acct. its understandable why my emotional state of health was so much better in Jean not having to deal with the constant stress of being homeless, and why i want to return. i was under a lot less pressure there and was a lot happier, and often told claudia that, and didnt get angry and bitter til she started talking less and less. actually what really made me give up on her was her call about a week before the end in which she was saying how i needed counseling, and shouldnt ever gamble at all, not even at poker. i cant handle a woman not having any faith in me to do what i want more than anything to do with my life, and that really made me upset. and i never really got to talk to her about my feelings because she never let me talk anymore. u see, i always felt the whole concept of writing the magazine article was to say how people like me should never gamble, instead of to support and encourage me in my choice of life style that makes me happy. she was so worried about not getting hired for next years wsop if people thought she was associated with "that crazy person" (me) her words, not mine, and of course she too sees a counselor, which is why she has such an obsession with me getting counseling. but what good did that do when all the counselor said was that i should have friends that i should call when i felt the urge to gamble machines and needed someone to talk to instead of her? and then when i did try to talk to the friends instead, they said to call the counselor. But lets get on to them hands

i was dealt 99 (and i had a NL overs, about 70% of us did) and i raised a $4 straddle to $10. got 4 callers. one of which is a regular, and was on my left and had the button who i wanted out. id seen him once earlier check the 2nd nuts of a flopped flush all the way when out of position. flop comes up 569 with 2 hearts, i have 9 of hearts. i make a $6 bet, and they call. the one guy without the overs button folded on the flop. turn comes Qh for a possible flush. they both check, and i worry about the asian who likes to check monsters and the guy behind me too. he didnt take an overs button at first, and i was wondering if me adding the other $100 when a lot of the first $95 was gone had something to do with it. thats when he took it. i dont think i should play overs anymore til i build up the roll. anyway i think i made a mistake checking here, thought the asian mightve flopped the straight and the regular behind me turned a flush. guy behind me checks. river comes 2c total blank, and asian guy bets $27. next guy folds, i call and am relieved the guy behind me folds. asian showed a total bluff of a busted straight no pair and i won.

another hand, i had JJ and raised to $8 preflop. 2 guys called, both with overs buttons and both could stack me. had just gotten back to being stuck $6 from being stuck alot more. but started giving a little back in the last 2 rounds. flop comes AK4. both check, i check in last position. theyve been playing a while and know i dont play almost nothing unless its a strong hand when i raise, and also i can lay down a good hand (which is why i shouldnt show folds). turn comes 9, guy checks, other guy bets $12 and heres where i think i made the mistake, i raised it to $35. why? because it makes it look like i sandbagged a monster on the flop, and i thought he would then lay down a weak ace or king hes betting. and id look like i had ak for 2pair at a minimum. instead he shoves, i fold, shocked he shoved, and after i folded he showed the a. so i didnt have to worry i was bluffed again. never did see his other card.

took so long to compose this now im tired and cant go and respond to all the comments i wanted to in the previous blog but i will sometime i swear. i do feel i need to spend more time playing and less in my room online. been told i must get the hours in and not be lazy to get my money back. although i really miss the apt where i could just play online in my room. really am worried about what ill do when tomorrow night gets here, i have no money to move back into another place by the week. also i have no food comps here because ive always turned all comps into immediate free play which is the same as cash almost. so ive only ate the 1 bag of chips i came with in the last 30 hours and nothing else and when i wake up ill really need some normal food.

what makes things tougher now than when i was this broke in the past, is prices have gone up, casino room prices are more than 2008, cheap rooming houses no longer exist, now all that exist are rooms in others homes, and i have no comps anywhere like i used to. since im not playing big money anywhere, not getting any more big free play offers and room offers like binions used to give and others.

106 comments:

  1. Have you hit rock bottom yet, Tony?

    s.i.

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    1. I may be wrong, but I do not think he has the ability to hit rock bottom and make the changes you are looking for. Seems to ingrained, but you know him better. I hope you can somehow help him to become a better person and live a better life. It certainly is not for lack of trying

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    2. I don't think so, you played a "bad" machine just today.

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  2. Tony why not go back to Kansas and regroup. Get on government help while in Kansas and then move back to LV. You can change addresses while on government help rite? Good luck!

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    1. too cold to be homeless there, mom only wants me to visit NOT live. she said she couldnt handle me more than a week. and no way to get any money either, town almost nonexistent, too small

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  3. You sound like Nicholas Cage in the movie "leaving Las Vegas".
    In case you hadn't seen it, he is a big time alcoholic and has a hooker/girlfriend and tells her that she can Never tell him to stop drinking.

    Any woman or friend of yours can Never tell you to stop gambling.

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  4. Tony. This is the last time I am going to comment on a hand that does not have stack sizes. For some reason, you think it is unimportant but I can tell you it is THE FIRST THING a good player will look at when attempting to give advice. You. Must. Give. Stack. Sizes. Effective stack sizes is all that is needed, you don't have to give an exact amount.

    Anyway, in the first hand you really need to raise the straddle more, like ~$16. And on the flop you have to be much bigger as well, as that is a very wet board. You should be betting ~$32, and even closer to pot. No idea why you are even bothering betting $6 unless it's to induce. Not only are you going to entice a LOT of floats you are also going to encourage people playing back at you, especially given your image. Seriously, bet bigger.

    The second hand I like. ASSUMING you are deep enough effectively to make it work. Also assuming your raise on the turn is big enough, AND assumnig you barrel the river. Though if your raise were to get called on the turn and ultimately decided to give up on the river then I would hate the raise on the turn. But your thinking is good. /you displayed critical and logistical thought making that raise. Now, if you could just stop leaning on the actual results when determining a mistake or not, you'd be much better off.

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    1. the reason for the smaller raises and bets is $6 is the MACIMUM bet until u first get down to just the players with nl overs, before that happens, the game stays $2-6

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    2. this ^, though tony could have taken nl button and played more effective poker in some circumstances, as i mentioned he thnks for whatever reason that limit lowers variance.

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    3. donkeytax, the NL overs button means i cannot protect my hand preflop (or on the flop usually) but once theyve sucked out on me on the turn or river, then they can use it to value bet me once everyones out. hows this gonna work out? dont sound good does it? see how its different than straight NL?

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    4. Tony, the problem is you always think you're losing.
      If you think it, it will happen.
      Your thoughts cause you to play bad poker, thus your results show that exact same problem.

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  5. Hand 1: An example of why it is bad to play a Limit game with an overs button. You could not adequately protect your set after the flop with the limit restriction. Then, after the turn you could be put to the test only people with overs buttons left.

    Hand 2: Bad frame of mind when you refer to being down $6 as "being stuck." $6 is just a bet. Anyway, after both players checked on the flop, you missed the opportunity to c-bet. Not doing so told the guy with the Ace that he was way ahead, leading to his exploting you after the turn. With your reputation for tightness, the place to represent a hand was after the flop, not the turn.

    "and thats why im not keen at all at working on getting bans lifted to play on looser games on the strip like a few misguided and well meaning souls keep suggesting" Tony, I would recommend things like getting a job, going back to your family or doing all the things you would need to do to possibly qualify for disability or other government assistance, but we know those things are not going to happen.

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    1. if i was going to stay around vegas homeless, then id feel comfortable applying because i wouldnt be able to be asked a ton of questions like how are u paying rent with no income?

      but the issue is, once im homeless, im scared to sleep outdoors, am too old, not the young kid i was, and vegas is a bad place to be homeless in, so i leave vegas to be safe the 2nd i can.

      also, if i had a friend to stay with, then id feel comfortable getting hooked up with social services because then id also not be asked those questions. vinces roommate still hasnt moved out, and no one else in town will take me in, even though ive offered to pay

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    2. tony...you live out of hotels and pay cash, i SERIOUSLY doubt this would be the issue you make it out to be, you simply tell them your homeless as is...there not gonna get a p.i. to verify it.

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    3. It's not up to your friends to provide you housing to bribe you into getting social services for YOURSELF

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  6. Hand 1: Not quite sure I'd be continuing on the turn with [from what it sounded like] 4 players in the hand calling. It's too likely someone is on a flush draw that just got there. I think, like you, I weakly check / call the river bet as a bluff catcher, which is precisely what you had. On the other hand, you could have bet / folded the turn, but that sets you up to be bluffed far too often if these players are semi-thinking players.

    Hand 2: I'm really confused why you raise the turn. Moreover, you raise real weak there - from $12 to $35? That's a bit more than a min raise... It's such a bad board to your JJ that this is a clear fold to aggression immediately. Do you honestly think anyone's laying down a "weak Ace" for $23 more? I don't know about Las Vegas, but out here, weak Aces never fold and go into c/call mode trying to get to showdown after you do something like that.

    Tony - here's something to remember: Your goal is to not make the other players lay down what they perceive to be good hands by bluffing them. Your goal is to make better hands against their "lock" hands and value bet the hell outta them. Don't try to make them make the folds of their lives... particularly with the money involved (until you get MUCH deeper), it ain't gonna work.

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  7. You are happy with your lifestyle? You don't come across as happy.

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    1. what i mean, was i was stress free when i was living in Jean unlike this week. i will be happy, if i can get to jean, and also get my laundry done somehow too, am down to 3 clean shirts.

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  8. Tony, who is your bank account through?

    This is a one time VD Offer because I'm feeling kind and generous (it might be the drugs I'm on).

    If you have Chase or Bank of America - I am willing to make a small transfer into your account so that you can get some food - a hot meal or whatever.

    All you have to do is find out and email me the information that I would need in order to make a transfer into your account and it will be done before the day is over.
    I cannot guarantee when as I will be out with my sweetie today but as soon as I get access to a computer and I have your info I will send it over.

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    1. FYI,

      Transfer just made
      $25 as a Valentine's Present.
      I would prefer if this money got spent for one nice big hot meal. Treat Yourself.

      If not then this money should only be used for Food for your room/apartment/whatever.

      grrouch

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    2. sent grouchie an email to thank him and express surprise at the amount, expected it to be less. and i ate right beforehand, this reimbursed it all and some extra for my next meal i eat.

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  9. You're never going to make a change or receive any assistance in doing so until you can for once consider that what you do isn't leading you anywhere near where you want to be.

    And you and we all know that you're not happy in this lifestyle, you just haven't done anything else other than this for as long as you can remember and don't know any differently.

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    1. as should be obvious, the only time im unhappy is when im stressed and worried ill end up totally broke and on the street. when my roll was doing well a year ago i was estatic with the freedom and my nice apt in reno. i still know id do great at poker with the proper roll, so id be free of the pressure, the cell phone records snevman made me kept prove it.

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    2. You stopped keeping records once you liked the number. That number would be much different now had you not given up on it.


      And the more money you had, the higher and more loosely you gambled. Other than that you had the same frustrations and fears and paranoias.

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    3. tony you had the roll several times, still go broke, be it the machines or tilt or whatever it doesnt work. you wont do it but maybe stop your mind sometime and think...what if i just dont play poker/gamble, if your unable to do that, it consumes you to the point of any addict where it will just be continually destructive

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    4. Tony,

      This is kind of telling. At work, we have something called "root cause analysis" or "regression analysis." What we do is investigate when something failed, to try to pinpoint the problem. This way, we can avoid making the same mistake in the future. It is a useful tool that gives you deep inspection into our operating procedures, conditions, etc.

      Have you ever done a root cause analysis of your financial life? It may seem very easy to blame your VBJ habit, or your bad luck. However, that is only the effect of something else. What caused you to play VBJ? What drives you to continue to play slot machines? What ticks inside of your head that when you get your roll up over $10k, you feel the urge to try to break your roll once again? Why are you - in effect - you?

      Thinking about these answers - or coming up with new questions and answering them - may help you the next time if you're so lucky as to get your roll up to a comfortable level again. Otherwise, you'll continue to be the silly old man you're rapidly becoming.

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  10. Too bad you are going back to Jean without getting set up for assistance and getting your diagnosis. I thought that was the main reason you came back to Vegas in the first place. Good luck with things. I don't think Jeans the answer but I've given u all the input I have so whatever u do hope it works out.

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    1. well i really have no time to spare, i need to spend my time either getting my hours in grinding up the roll, and besides i feel more proud of myself that im doing the right thing if im supporting myself by gambling instead of depending on the govt.

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    2. You have all the time in the world for the things you deem important.

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  11. PPPeters, nice timely article for you on CZR yesterday. It was flying from the open, then an article came from the 'Motley Fool' Bear (I added Bear) which really was not very good, that questioned how much money Caesars and others might be able to make from online gambling in US, and BOOM, stock tanked from there.

    WOW, then tanked today all the way to 10.62 before making a monster comeback to 11.24.

    There is some buyers in this one. I obviously could be wrong, but I do not like the action on the Put Side, especially after todays run up.

    Now, it depends how much this story has to do with it...."Ohio casino gets gaming license despite debt issue" http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ohio-casino-gets-gaming-license-145416377.html

    But Still, you likely had some wonderful profit on the put at one point today. Let us know how you proceed please. Thank You

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    1. Yeah, after down 9% yesterday, it was down another 5.5% this morning before the buyers stepped in. I'm still holding

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    2. Eh? Flying from the open? Are we watching the same stock? If you look at the 5min you'll notice that it opened @11.28 and in the first red bar hit its low of 11.12.

      Within 30 minutes it hit 11.40 - a gain of 12 cents from the open, or 1.4%. That does not qualify as "flying from the open."

      Also, LOL @ fool.com. You're he same guy who has cited seekingalpha at least a couple times in the past week, aren't you? I don't really understand why you are reading articles from two really crappy websites, one of which (seekingalpha) has actually featured Scott Matusow as a contributor.

      Anyway, you are implying that that article had something to do with CZR's small intra-day slide, which would be an incorrect implication. LOL, Motley Fool does not have the kind of clout to influence the price action of any financial instrument.

      Also, could you explain what you mean when you say:
      "There is some buyers in this one. I obviously could be wrong, but I do not like the action on the Put Side, especially after todays run up"
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      What does this mean? There wasn't any run-up today(14th) - it was nearly UNCH. Also, what do you mean when you say you don't like the action on the "Put Side?" Is there something that you saw in Open Interest that prompted that statement? If so, what was it?

      Thanks

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    3. pumping stocks on tbc's poker blog =shameless.

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    4. At the moment, CZR is down 23% this week... Aside from a brief spurt yesterday, not much support, either. Earnings next week, which will obviously be a big loss. Should be interesting to see the market's reaction. I stand by my prediction from last Friday - last week's 40% gains will evaporate . . .

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  12. The JJ hand you tried a fancy play and were nurned for it. Why try and bluff, lay it down. That $35 you wasted will be better used another time, in a better situation.

    Here's a question for you. If you go back to Jean and with only a $1200 bankroll are you gonna be able to get enough in comps each day for a room each night? Perhaps a cheap Greyhpound bus to Daytona Beach or the Ft Lauderdale area is a good bet. They each have poker rooms, bus service and if you HAVE to sleep outside its a lot warmer. You could sleep on the beach if need be.

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    1. the plane is as cheap as the bus, and much more convenient. but tampa has a lot better choice of games than ft lauderdale ive been to their cardroom and its more for hi limit players, dont have the same games tampa offers. lots more stud and low limit omaha8 in tampa. vegas too is quite warm although id rather be homeless in sandiego than vegas

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  13. Tony and I are currently negotiating a trip to Jean, NV.

    My price will be high (no, it's not a blowie on the road!), and I'm not sure Tony will follow through...

    s.i.

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  14. Why would you spend $90 for 3 days in a hotel and not 140 for 7 more days

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    1. because i wanted to be near this poker game instead of the samstown poker game, on advice from friends. thought id be about $50 a day better off by now, but still going thru variance in the short term. i do agree its a little bit better game. but then again maybe im more cut out for tighter games. 7 more days costs a lot more than $140. so i didnt do it. obv with the $13 a day resort fee, staying here isnt a solution long term. i originally thought i could do good here taking NL overs, but then realized i better not, not until i can better deal with the variance.

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  15. It's too bad there's not a way to win money playing online poker, as that would let you live anywhere -- even near family back in Kansas -- and still get in tons of hours at the table and be a professional poker player.

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  16. Tony, I have told you through the years that you are an amazing poker player that would have a 6-figure roll, IF YOU WOULD STAY OFF THE VBJ MACHINES. Why have you never listened to me?

    Tim from Lyons

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  17. Tony, I have told you through the years that you are an amazing poker player that would have a 6-figure roll, IF YOU WOULD STAY OFF THE VBJ MACHINES. Why have you never listened to me?

    Tim from Lyons

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  18. Tony

    A few things

    - I am your friend
    - you should not gamble
    - gambling is the biggest thing holding you back from being happy (laziness is a close second)
    - you are a gambling addict
    - you think gambling makes you happy but you are only addicted to the action
    - you would a be a success not a failure if you quit gambling and got help or a job
    - when I say gambling I am including poker
    - you will never truly be happy until you do this
    - sadly I don't think you will ever quit
    - you will only listen to what you want to hear. That is what addicts do

    I don't usually get involved with the life advice anymore. I gave up on that a year ago. Ill take another year or more break after I write this

    No comments on hand histories for me tonight. Not as important I wish you the best.

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    1. ^everything vook said sums up my current thoughts on your situation

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  19. in my room playing $1, $2, and $3 sngs with the small $24 i have on lock. am just going to grind this up so i can turn it into much needed cash. thats why i would like a free place to live for a while so i can play without stress and without all the fluctuation and variance, in games finally suitable for my bankroll and low enough so i can play my best without the swings being too much.

    i feel like i did the right thing quitting the game at tx and going to eat and ill play again later before i check out tomorrow. i was up $101 once, back to $1300 but left only up $50 so ill still be in the $1200s. i also think i made a wise decision to NOT take the overs button, let me make better decisions without as much pressure, and also kept me from being at the disadvantage of not being able to use it til after id been sucked out on.

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  20. You do realize that your "free" place to live in Jean isn't actually free right?

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    1. i dont really think going there is a solution either, but just dont know where else to go if i want to continue to sleep indoors every night. i dont think i have enough to grind there either. i basically need a free place to live while i grind online poker with the last $900 or so in the roll.

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    2. Also, instead of expecting to be gifted a free place to live so that you can grind $1 SNGs and being angry when you don't get it, why not be the 44 year old man you are and strap your boots up and go out and get some social services and a job like the rest of the world? The only person you can rely on is yourself and you clearly have no self pride or respect whatsoever. That's really sad.

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  21. tony ive been all for you trying to make it at poker but i think you may very well lack the capacity to do so...being able to put aside the emotions/stress and play consistently is absolutely essential...in this i agree with the claudia character...you dont need to be gambling at all, poker included as you lack the essential skills to do so successfully. you need to work towards getting back on benefits and seriously reconsider your life ambitions to something like a regular low paying job with some semblance of stability. you also lack a basic understanding...the no limit buttons decrease variance, having 5 people cal you down to the river massively increases variance, and you should have some reading skills that alert you when youve been sucked out on. you seem to think what you need is smaller tighter games which just makes the bleeding slower, if anything you need the exact opposite, you need drunk spewtard tourists playing nl to have any shot at progress, but as i said this also is a bad idea as you lack the ability to play sound poker.

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    1. seeing that i think Los angeles has better games due to looser action--i dont think i ever PREFERRED TIGHT games. its just thats where i ended up--and TX isnt tight at all either. samstown is though. but drunks arent a good idea unless u enjoy one hand for every 5 minutes where they tank for an hour and finally fold. what u want is a game with lots of EMPLOYEES in it, raising every pot or at least passively calling. and what good are NL overs buttons when u cant use them while u are ahead, but they only come into play on the final round or two, AFTER UR BEHIND? i think lightning is right

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  22. Fingers crossed they still have them good machines in Jean and that the staff there are waiting to welcome you back with open arms (and buffet comps).

    Thanks for reminding us how truly happy and content you were in Jean. It does sound like a little slice of stress-free heaven. Plus free ice cream!

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  23. I think you should stop trying to listen people's "advice" and just do what you feel is best for you.

    People keep telling you to play NL. Clearly you don't have the right state of mind to be playing NL. It doesn't matter how good the game is if you're not mentally able to play it well because you're too nervous about risking that much money.

    Same goes for choosing where to live. If it makes you feel better to go to Jean then you should go to Jean.

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  24. wrt to CZR,if you're following the daily you'll notice it's starting to approach that little gap from when it gapped UP on 2/8. Look for it to encroach that gap and fall below 10.07

    If it breaks through 10.00 and CLOSES the day below 10 then we can look to go short, as I think it has some room to run from there considering there doesn't appear to be any support for miles.

    I haven't read any posts since my last and I do not believe poker gambling 24/7 has posted yet but I just want to make clear that I did not mean to attack him or his thinking when I responded to a post of his. Looking back it appears too much like an attack and I didn't mean it to be. Just good 'ol fashioned trading talk.

    Anyway, if there was one name I am looking at this weekend it is going to be HNZ (Heinz). I'm really curious why Warren Buffet would go out of his way to overpay for a stock considering he is usually very value conscious and does not overpay for anything, like ever.

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  25. Its cool if you have an opinion you can give it, we are mostly all grown-ups and its only an internet blog :) . I have traded stocks, bonds and complex options pretty much right out of college, where I majored in Finance with advanced courses in securities investment for the last 30 years. I advise all of my family members on financial matters and security, bond investments, and am a member of CNBCs public advisory board for programming.

    I have traded thru all of the market upheavals/crashes since the 80s, and got really involved with long positions after 2008.

    Before computers at home made stock trading much easier, I would head out to Charles Schwab to watch the ticker, watch news and get quotes on their terminals, along with all the old retired guys almost every day, even if at regular work (ah the benefit of 2 1/2 hour lunches lol).

    So, yes, I read many intelligent articles that come out of Seeking Alpha and Motley Fool, and yes, they can and do move the market depending on what is written. Yeah, so SA has different contributing authors, many of them write intelligent opinions and I trade off the pieces at times.

    As far as CZR, it will be interesting to see what they say for Earnings Release Feb 28th.

    In your 1st post on Feb 9th you were saying shorting CZR Stock was the absolute wrong move (a clueless move), you said maybe there would be a small gain on Monday, but that overall it was a bad short. Now you are saying it might be a good short just 4 trading days later?

    It looks like a POS stock overall to me, but it certainly looks like a great trading vehicle at the moment as it is quite volatile making good-sized % moves everyday. Unless something dramatically changes it looks good for a potential $0 at some point down the road, but there are a lot of interested buyers in the last few days, many days after the NJ announcement.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it broke well below 10 or up above 15

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    1. I'm sure you understand that, in trading, longs can become shorts, shorts can become longs, holds can become short or long, etc all within a matter of seconds. It is not at all rare, and actually quite common to be long a certain name only to go short on the very next print. Anyway, what I actually said was if it broke through a pretty significant support level, one could consider a short position. 4 days is a lifetime in trading. So much can, and usually does, change

      It's nice that you have traded stocks, bonds, and options before and it's great that you have advised your family and friends on financial matters. I'm not entirely sure what it actually proves, but it is nice nonetheless =]. Though you are going to have to help me out with this "CNBC public advisory board for programming" member claim. I googled it and found nothing that showed it exists. Not that it would matter much frankly - I mean, you're a member of an advisory board on what CNBC puts on the air? Cool.

      Regardless, CNBC is considered to be trash in the trading and investing world. Why would you even want to brag about something like this I'm not even sure.

      Trading off of advice you receive in an Seekingalpha article seems insane to me. Their writers are droolers. And even if they weren't, I just can not fathom trading based off of some random online article like that. Again, they publish articles from SCOTT MATUSOW. Yes, Mike's brother. He is an idiot, to put it mildly. If I were to follow a site like that it would be zerohedge I guess.

      Further, you say that CZR makes for a great trading vehicle due to its volatility, and while this would normally be true, CZR is also a thinly floated company. Which essentially means that you can expect a tumultuous and wild trade, so to speak. And if there is ever good news in the stock, the sector or even any positive catalyst you can absolutely expect to be short squeezed. The point is thinly floated stocks like this are extremely difficult to short so good luck I guess.


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    2. Yeah I got it, On Friday you told someone pointing towards a short on CZR that it was the most clueless thing you could do and only an amateur would do it (you said nothing about it breaking a support level). Now, after it has dropped 23% since your pronouncement about how stupid the wildly profitable trade would have been (if you could get the shares to short), you drop into the clueless camp.

      Just to get it straight, on Friday the wildly clueless idiots were not so clueless or dumb afterall and you were completly wrong right?

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    3. My precise quote:

      "Regardless, shorting now is something amateur traders would do. You don't short stocks simply because they've shot up, nor do you go long in something that has fallen drastically. It's a very typical move of people who are clueless, though I do not mean to call this person in here clueless"

      As you are probably in your 40s or 50s I imagine you have a bad memory or terrible reading comprehension. Either way, I did not say it was the most clueless thing you could do. Just that it is merely a clueless thing to do. Do you even understand the concept of results oriented thinking?

      What's actually funny about this is that you are MUCH older than I am and probably have not traded more than 50 contracts in your life. Yes, the trade WORKED, no, the trade was not a good one. But, hey, why let that get in the way of results, eh? Clueless.

      Everything that I wrote in the post above you I happened to learn in my first year in the trader trainee program at JPM. OF course, you have no concept of anything because you still read sites like seekingalpha with the Scott Matusow's of the world. Everything you have said has had not even a scintilla of value. Your trading rhetoric sounds precisely like you would read fool.com, which is a site that is geared toward investing plebeians who watch CNBC.

      Do you even have a broker? Do you know who Interactive Brokers are? Or are you buying 50 shares of dogshit stock using Scottrade at like $4.95 a trade?

      LOL, I love pikers who come onto a blog like this and start talking about stocks. Some of things you have said in this blog have been just so laughable I am not even sure if you are joking. You even mentioned something about the earnings of CZR and how it will be "interesting what they have to say." lol, why, why will this be interesting? Why is this even relevant to anybody with a damn clue? Nobody worth their balls in the trading sphere TRADES the news. Who the hell cares about their earnings - by the time they report the stock price action will already reflect it. Good lord, are you an idiot.

      Seekingalpha lolllllllllllllllllllllllllll

      I have drawdowns that are bigger than what you have in the market. Enjoy those stellar returns I am oh so sure you are having piggybacking DROOLERS on fool.com and seekingalpha. ugh, pikers these days. Stick to throwing darts at a board, you'll probably enjoy better returns this way.


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    4. Steve, you really are an idiot, but thats ok. You are the greatest and I can tell you must have millions from your immature discussions without many facts. You must be the greatest trader in the World also. You are so great you give opinions without substance. You would have zero idea what money in the market I have or have made, what my results are, anything.

      The only thing I can guess from your posts, is you have little knowledge but big words. Maybe you just come across as an underage know-nothing and you actually have had a positive experience somehow in the market. Anythings possible. But from what you post, it does not seem like it. Keep trying though, you make me laugh pretty hard

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    5. Yeah, you love that Horse (Scott Matasow wrote an article), lol, so what. Thats one of thousands of articles. Maybe it was something he was well versed in. Maybe it was complete crap. So, are you too stupid to determine a good article from bad. Apparently so. Oh, you went to JPM trader school. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Good for you. It is quite surprising. Given how unintelligent you come across.

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  26. Hi Tony - I get into Las Vegas for a week on Sunday. I will have a rental car and could drive you to Jean if you still need a ride - no charge. Let me know if you are interested.

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    2. I understand your uneasiness. Honestly, most of my friends would think I was crazy for offering to take you. I was simply trying to help someone who seemed like they could use some help. The offer still stands if you change your mind.

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    3. You can trust k9dr. I will vouch for him

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    4. I vouch for him too. We played at the same table at an AVP tourney a while back.

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    5. I can vouch for him too Tony. We played together at an AVP tourney a while back.

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  27. TBC: qdpsteve here. Couldn't help but notice some bits and pieces you've written lately about Hawaiian Gardens Casino in California... i.e., that it's a 'bad area' and that you wish you could join the $20 NL game there.

    I live about five miles west of HGC, in Lakewood. While it's true that the city of Hawaiian Gardens (which is actually patrolled by Lakewood's Sheriff Station personnel) has had more than its share of gang problems, thankfully over the years I've been going there, I haven't had any issues about that at the casino. The place has a LOT of private security. So long as you don't find yourself south of Carson Street (right across the street from HGC), and don't 'hang out' much in HG City itself outside of the casino, you're probably okay.

    Also, you might be in for some culture shock if you showed up. Not only no VBJ machines... NO MACHINES whatsoever. They're illegal in California outside of the legendary "indian casinos," a la Pechanga or Morongo (which by the way are my personal favorite places to play poker that's anywhere near my neighborhood). Outside of poker, the remaining games at HGC are mostly live blackjack (with a $1 collection for every hand -- and you can play as the banker if you want) and a lot of Asian Games, such as 12-card poker, Pai Gow and Easy Bac.

    HGC is also not the tidiest place I've ever been. Although it's a lot less old, dark and dusty than Normandie Casino in Gardena, and they keep the restrooms halfway decent, it's probably a bit below the standards of decor, ambiance and cleanliness you're used to in Nevada.

    Finally... and despite my issues with you, I am almost... almost tempted to see about buying you a bus ticket out here. Besides the fact that I wonder if folks would recognize you there (including me), there *is* a semi-cheap but semi-decent motel, the Trade Winds, right at the HG/Lakewood/Long Beach border, within walking distance of the casino, as well as right across the street from Wal-Mart at Long Beach Towne Center. I seriously wonder if you could do better here.

    You should also note, however, I've played many times in the $20 NL game at HGC. It's basically an any-two-card shovefest, because none of the players ever feel like they're risking any sort of real amount of money. Also, you can buy in for $20 at a time and ONLY $20 at a time.

    Anyway, again, sorry you're so far down. Hope you can come back again. At the same time, everything I've said to you in the past still stands. I still think it would do you a world of good to try and get some sort of job, even if it's only part-time and even if it's only until you can build enough of a bigger bankroll to continue your NL-career dreams.

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  28. TBC: qdpsteve here. Couldn't help but notice some bits and pieces you've written lately about Hawaiian Gardens Casino in California... i.e., that it's a 'bad area' and that you wish you could join the $20 NL game there.

    I live about five miles west of HGC, in Lakewood. While it's true that the city of Hawaiian Gardens (which is actually patrolled by Lakewood's Sheriff Station personnel) has had more than its share of gang problems, thankfully over the years I've been going there, I haven't had any issues about that at the casino. The place has a LOT of private security. So long as you don't find yourself south of Carson Street (right across the street from HGC), and don't 'hang out' much in HG City itself outside of the casino, you're probably okay.

    Also, you might be in for some culture shock if you showed up. Not only no VBJ machines... NO MACHINES whatsoever. They're illegal in California outside of the legendary "indian casinos," a la Pechanga or Morongo (which by the way are my personal favorite places to play poker that's anywhere near my neighborhood). Outside of poker, the remaining games at HGC are mostly live blackjack (with a $1 collection for every hand -- and you can play as the banker if you want) and a lot of Asian Games, such as 12-card poker, Pai Gow and Easy Bac.

    HGC is also not the tidiest place I've ever been. Although it's a lot less old, dark and dusty than Normandie Casino in Gardena, and they keep the restrooms halfway decent, it's probably a bit below the standards of decor, ambiance and cleanliness you're used to in Nevada.

    Finally... and despite my issues with you, I am almost... almost tempted to see about buying you a bus ticket out here. Besides the fact that I wonder if folks would recognize you there (including me), there *is* a semi-cheap but semi-decent motel, the Trade Winds, right at the HG/Lakewood/Long Beach border, within walking distance of the casino, as well as right across the street from Wal-Mart at Long Beach Towne Center. I seriously wonder if you could do better here.

    You should also note, however, I've played many times in the $20 NL game at HGC. It's basically an any-two-card shovefest, because none of the players ever feel like they're risking any sort of real amount of money. Also, you can buy in for $20 at a time and ONLY $20 at a time.

    Anyway, again, sorry you're so far down. Hope you can come back again. At the same time, everything I've said to you in the past still stands. I still think it would do you a world of good to try and get some sort of job, even if it's only part-time and even if it's only until you can build enough of a bigger bankroll to continue your NL-career dreams.

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    1. that motel u call cheap is like $375 a week, which to me is extremely high and i feel unsafe walking to and forth at night. unless that was the motel 1 block up. and im seriously considering disappearing on the megabus to cali saturday instead of Jean, in which case if u see me in there how about just reimbursing the fare ive already paid in the form of a buyin for that game? im really trying to find a game i can afford and still beat. id think the omaha8 game might also qualify (4-8 at commerce and 3-6 if offered anywhere in cali)

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  29. Hey tony I've played with you a few times over the years... The first time was at the IP and you challenged me to a heads up 2-5 game which I snap accepted after you flashed your 2k roll out of your sock. You then backed out as soon as the floor (I believe it was Ricky) agreed to spread it. I proceeded to stack you a few times and then you went on tilt and then left for half an hour and came back bragging how you won back all your losses back at bj.

    I started out living at the IP and have progressed to living out of harrahs and Bally's and I know how stressful and difficult playing poker for a living can be. I've taken several unsuccessful shots at 2-5 and had to move back down to 1-2, but my goal is to play 5-10 or higher. The problem with your your game is that it was barely break even 3 years ago and I've noticed even the fish are better nowadays. You play too much of a weak tight style and are too afraid of monsters under the bed. You have to be prepared to make thin value bets, and yes you will value own yourself almost 50% of the time if your vbetting very well, but in the long run it will add a few BBS to you win rate.

    Also, don't rely on your readers to give you any good advice, most of them are amateurs who probably read a book or two. Most of their advice here is atrocious. If they were able to do it for a living they would do it, dont you think? I strongly recommend posting in the live no limit section on 2+2... You'll get much more sound advice on poker strategy. I think listening to your readers advice has hurt your game and it is not well suited in today's climate. There are many people on 2+2 who post and say that live is lol easy... Which it can be many days but its not always so, it takes a special kind of hardiness and discipline to make it.

    If you remember the incident then you know who I am. I don't dislike you, I find your antics at the table amusing and I'll admit I've mad bad plays just to hope to bad beat you and put you on tilt. But I don't want to see you bust... You are like a weird fixture in the 1-2 Vegas scene and it would be sad to see yo go. So my advice is don't listen to you readers, instead post more on 2+2 and subscribe to Bart Hansen. I think if you caught up on today's game you'd see how behind you are on the curve. Playing 2-6 spread is just asking to go bus to. Your only hope is to improve your game or get ssi. Doing what you are doing now only delays the inevitable. You need to stop playing break even poker and learn to crush. In order to make it you have to let go of the fear of losing money. I suggest getting a job or SSI or whatever to get yourself enough of a 1-2 so you dont worry about being stuck $6 or other such nonsense and apply yourself seriously to this game. It's not super easy and it's not super tough to beat 1-2...its somewhere in between... but you have to definitely apply yourself and it takes a special mental toughness. Good Luck in whatever you decide to do...

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    1. i am sad to say ive forgotten this like ive forgot so many other things. but with only $900 left how can i afford to play anything else? considering trying $4-8 omaha hilow

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    2. Go home get a job and take care of your wife and child like a man. There is no survival or road to riches grinding low stake limit poker. Countdown to busto will prob be the best thing ever to happen to you.

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    3. I'm Asian and I usually have on Beats headphones at the table. One time you accussed me of being someone on AVP and this is how i discovered this site. I've been occassionally following this site just for the LOLs...but in order for this site to continue you have to learn to be a winning playing or do something else...

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    4. It is quite interesting to see how great you think you are while living in a hotel and being unable to progress past 1-2 drunk tourist NL. Props for the false sense of competency.

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    5. Its not being able to progress past 1-2 it's a psychological thing for me. I might have a similar problem to TBC in that I am scared money at 2-5 and it affects my game so i don't plan on moving back up til i have 40 deep buyins (40k) for 2-5. The 2-5 players play just as bad at 1-2...it's just the money is 3 or 4x as much and it affects me and i can't always pull the trigger like i can in 1-2.

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    6. Also I'd like to add a strategy post on that JJ hand you absolutely butchered. You didnt give stack sizes or position, just relative position (you had last action). I don't know if they called from the blinds or limped in EP or MP.

      Given this inadequate info and no info on villians... on to the hand:

      You raised with JJ and get two callers (limp callers or out of the blinds, it makes a difference). It flops AK4 (rainbow?) and u check back in position??? Horrible horrible...Low limit donks always put you on AK when u raise and then u flop AKrag and u check behind 2 players? Anyone with a lick of sense would realize you would always bet AK there vs 2 opps. Lets say you bet on the flop...anyone who c/r has to be afraid of AK...so if they are c/r they have complete air or a set of 4s prolly but they are check calling with hands like AJ AT and AQ even... They will checkraise you with AK thinking they are freerolling. Not betting the flop turns your hand face up on the flop. No way you have AK or AA or KK there... any competent player would bet those hands... So on the turn he can c/r with all his Ax hands knowing u have pp smaller than Kings. He may also bet halfpot to induce a spazz raise just like u did so he completely outplayed despite what he had

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    7. Basically you need to bet the flop and give up if c/r or called because bluffs makes up such a small portion of their range on an AK4 OOp against the PFR.

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    8. LOL at Beats headphones. Overpriced headphones without the sound quality to match its price.

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  30. wasnt a good night at texas station, am at the stratosphere now deciding whether to play or ride the strip bus elsewhere, had a long talk with seattle irish, and lost $300 at texas station and i really wasnt making any bad plays at all til the very end. none of that was lost on VBJ at texas. played VBJ 3 hours at the strat on a bad machine and lost only like $10, although i was both ahead and behind more than $100 once. he might be able to take me to Jean at 11am, and once my phones charged Vince might be able to let me sleep at his house but only in his room since he has roommates. he said he gets off work about 2am from caesers (temp dealing tourny) would really rather have another solution such as cheap enough housing in vegas and a game i can still beat. i know i could beat the NL eventually if i had the role to ride it out.

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    1. oh, and Gail at TX station said to call it quits for the night and come back some other time because she got tired of me bursting out profanity when i lost a pot, thats why i left.

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    2. Just about anyone, given the bankroll and dedication... could beat 1-2 or 2-5 NL.... It's just when is the time and effort put into beating 1-2 better put somewhere else potentially more profitable??

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    3. i think i would do better playing $1-2, i lost that in $2-6 spread, not $1-2, but without the roll---i cant play regardless of whether i know i can beat it. and by the way donkstrike, id feel a lot more comfortable knowing u were looking out for my best interests if it wasnt for that thread u posted about deathdrone (and saying im similar) in pokerfraudalert.com

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    4. especially since u also posted u hoped he never found the thread. by the way his blog seems to have been removed, i cant get the link to work. u are welcome to print a working link here if u want.

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    5. Actually I just made up this name today to post here...i've never used this name before...different donkstrike

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    6. Lol the idea that anyone can beat Nl...the skill isn't the problem, I've seen them come with greater skill than myself and all but a few still run home...its the mental discipline and money management, these are also the things that hold tony back.

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    7. "oh, and Gail at TX station said to call it quits for the night and come back some other time because she got tired of me bursting out profanity when i lost a pot, thats why i left."

      I see. So you want to get banned from Station Casino properties, so as to complete the Harrah's/MGM/Station trifecta. You want to add another 9 casinos to the list of places you can't enter. Well then, you're going about it just the right way. Good work.

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  31. "oh, and Gail at TX station said to call it quits for the night and come back some other time because she got tired of me bursting out profanity when i lost a pot, thats why i left."

    You mean you were told to leave before you got your ass kicked out of another casino and banned from there. Probably another reason why you are reluctant to return to Jean, I'm sure you were warned there as well.

    Down to $900 according to your last roll report. Just a matter of time now Tony. All the well meaning and helpful advice you received over the years, and which you chose to ignore doesn't matter anymore. Armageddon is nigh, and it doesn't matter how hard you pray or how you much you continue to convince yourself you are a genius, you are fucked. You ramble on about how good a poker player you were when you had money not that long ago, what happened to it? It went down the shit chute on huge taxi fares, machines, machines and more machines,

    So what do you do now? Your Mom doesn't want you around for any more than a week. Your "I can live in hotels, or Jean, or Laughlin forever days are gone. You refuse to even contemplate getting some kind of job. You are too lazy to get your ass on some kind of subsidised housing list. You are too lazy to make the effort to get subsidised food. The rapture is descending upon your nit infested head, and the lesbians still don't want anything to do with you.

    You may survive if you spend a couple of dollars to buy a blanket to keep you warm, for when you have to sleep in dumpsters, after you have scrounged around inside looking for food scraps.

    So many of us tried to help you for years Tony, people like Josie, Serge, Rakewell, Vince, Tatude, Claudia, Pete Peters, Seattle Irish, Pokerdogg, Zin, Vook, Lightning 36, Cardgirl, and hundreds of others whose names escape me at the moment, (I apologize to those people). I guess it just never entered your mind that perhaps some of the advice coming from these people, made a whole lot of commonsense, whilst you continued to chase the impossible dream of being a professional machine player. Because you most certainly was never a professional poker player.

    Good luck with your pan handling (begging for dimes and pennies) wherever you may be.

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    1. Unfortunately, Tony, there is too much truth to what Koala has written. I am just an okay recreational player and certainly no poker authority, but I have played sessions with you at several casinos (O'Sheas, Golden Nugget, Suncoast, Sam's Town, Stratosphere, Harrah's Joliet) and have not seen in you the ability to play poker and come out ahead. The times I was impressed with your skills was when you were playing O-8 at Suncoast and blackjack at Harrah's Joliet. As DonkeyTax has mentioned, however, there is a certain mindset that is needed in order to be successful, and I just do not see it. You might have had it before, but now you are just scared money at the table, and people playing can feel it.

      You have answers for every good piece of advice that has been offered on your blog. Unfortunately, you apparently refuse to understand that in life people with little or no resources get few options.

      You have always found a way to survive when things got tough, and I imagine that I will be astounded and how you will somehow survive this. I hate that some people live their lives in a basic survival mode and miss out on all the other nice things in life, but this is the route you have chosen. I hope you make it through this, but find it so unfortunate that you will not do the things that you could do to help dig yourself out of this hole.

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  32. You have two options:

    1) you can sit around and wish for a bigger bankroll

    2) you can actually put in the work the build a bigger bankroll.


    Which one are you going to choose?

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    1. Will you give me these same options Mike? :)

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  33. So someone offers a ride after you've begged for one on here for what, a week?
    And you say "No - strange people scare me"

    You've used that excuse a lot over the few years that I have known you.
    You want something, you beg for it and when someone comes out of the woodwork and offers it to you - you go back into the "Well, I want it but only if one of these 3 people that I trust is willing to give it to me, and they should if they were a true friend."

    You know the funny shit about friends?
    Sometimes they come out of the wood works and present themselves in forms you don't know.
    But, you're too busy thinking that they might kill you, take your $900 and leave you in the desert between here and Jean.

    MFer offered you a free ride and you turned it down.


    Also, I echo Koala's sentiments above.
    You need help but aren't willing to accept it.
    It's a funny circle

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  34. Most of us don't understand poker the way that you do -- we haven't been poker pros for decades -- so maybe you could clear up a few things.

    1. You keep saying that poker isn't a game of skill and all that matters is the size of your bankroll. If you have a big bankroll, you'll win money; if you have a small bankroll, you'll lose money.

    2. If #1 is true, why didn't you win more at poker when you were "rich" and had $10K+ tucked in your sock?

    3. If #1 is true, why aren't you winning more online? Shouldn't you be a guaranteed winner in $1-2 SnGs since you have an effective bankroll of 500-1000 buyins?

    4. Lots of pros like Stuey would go busto, grub up a stake of a few buy-ins, then run that back up to a nice bankroll. How in the world is that possible if #1 is true? If the only way to win at poker is to have a big bankroll, how could anyone possibly take a small amount of money and turn it into a larger one?

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  35. As what many have predicted to happen for a long time now, it appears the final countdown to BUSTO has eventually come

    In a positive light, a hearty congratulations must be given to Tony by hanging on much longer than many spectators would ever have guessed. I do not think it is a leap to say a vast majority of observers would have gambled heavily on busto a LONG TIME AGO.

    So whether it be that God has had an extended umbrella of miracle over TBCs head, or he has run on the positive side of a years-long streak of fantastic luck, or if 'Super Nit Mode' has served him well when he got below 1K, or he has some semblance of poker playing ability, or a mix of everything....

    He certainly deserves some recognition for taking his 'run' this far down the road.

    Unfortunately, he deserves zero recognition for listening to friends who recognize his readily apparent gambling addiction that I have pointed out for years and screams for his eventual ruin in both poker, VBJ, BJ and Life

    With people still willing to help him he likely still has a chance to succeed in life if he can overcome his heavy unending addiction , but it looks pretty ugly for the future of TBC if he continues down the same stupid path

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  36. donstrike is correct, btw. Tony went from being a winning 1-2 player (that's not saying much, obv) to being this super self-conscious poker player who questions every move he makes.

    There has been so much terrible advice from all of these old people in here who probably wouldn't even beat the smallest game in the casino.

    Take note all of you lurkers. This is what happens when you take poker advice from tight- passive players with not a single imaginative thought in their heads. You end up losing your entire roll as well the ability to beat even the smallest NL game in the casino.

    This excludes a handful of people like grump, to mention only one.

    It's just so sad to see a winning player supporting himself lose this ability because he allowed these terrible poker players that follow him to change his game and the way he thinks about poker.

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    1. Tony you should listen to this guy. He sounds very smart and he's gotta be the most modest person in the world. Hopefully he can start a poker/trading blog so that we can all be like him someday. He is my new hero.

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    2. The clueless guy on stocks is spouting on advice concerning poker. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....

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    3. Again, without a single fact about what people are earning, playing, experience, playing style.

      You are a great know-it-all rofl

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    4. I can say for sure, Tony was a great winner in the SSI Contest, and in a $5K drawing, not sure about 1/2 though. But he has certainly made his 18K windfall last. Kudos to him

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    5. Good advice for tony to hit 2+2 for poker advice. I agree. It also will make good comedy to see the replies when he posts hands with 15% of the relevant info.

      What's funny is listening to Steve say the readers here have made tony change the way he plays. I've known tony for 6 years. His play hasn't changed. As donk strike said players have gotten better... The games has passed him by (though I wouldn't say that for Omaha)

      Btw Steve. What makes you think tony has listened to the shitty poker strat advice I've given? Obv you haven't been around long enough. Tony doesn'tisten to any shitty or good advice. He only listens to what he wants to hear

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    6. S.G. , you think that Tony's idea on poker has changed for the worse due to advices on this blog. Really???

      I have been reading Tony's blog for four years now, and I have seen very little change in his thought process regarding poker. The main thing he has varied was how much to buy in for, whether to hit and run, and what stakes/games to play.

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  37. Time to take all your cash to the roulette table and plunk it down on red or black. You'll either double up or immediately face the reality of being busto and absolutely HAVING to get help and make some changes to survive.

    Frankly, from what I've seen of your decision-making abilities, the slightly worse than 50% chance you have to double up at roulette is BETTER than your odds of rebuilding your bankroll playing poker in the games you can afford with only $900.

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    1. Take the money plunk it down on a 2-5 table...live by the sword die by the sword. Jk...get back on Ssi...

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  38. Tony, here's what you do if you take a ride from someone you don't know.

    Get their phone #, and (WITH THEIR PERMISSION!) give the phone # to someone you do trust, and tell them to notify the police if you suddenly disappear after the car ride.

    Do be aware though, treating people willing to help you like criminals is pretty -EV if you want any future favors.

    You should be more worried about your deteriorating health killing you then some random person setting you up to dump your body in the desert for 900 bucks.

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