Monday, March 11, 2013

A busy day with sickcallmggee with a surprise appearance by PokerJohnny

Roll is $1622. (hey thats an increase). but i lost all but 15 btc of the 95btc profit i had yesterday on swc, and now i cant play anything there again. didnt leave me enough to work with.

me and Mcgee were at tx briefly after leaving samstown, but no luck getting seated without waiting, so we drove to hooters being on the way home since there was immediate seating during aa cracked. i sat with $50, and was playing very few hands, hoping for a shot at the $200, or at least $100. about an hour or so into the session, (right after pokerJohnny came) i found KK under the gun, and being such a tight game, limped, (mcgee likes to steal blinds) but he folds, and 5 of us seen the flop. flop comes 259 rainbow, so im thinking good flop. i bet $10, 3 people call, bad sign. turn comes 8, shoved the last $25, a guy has aa so he calls of course, another guy hits a straight and cracks them for him. PokerJohnny and Mcgee claim i was shaking so bad out of anger they could see the steam, and we left, didnt feel like rebuying. and of course, i played really good each time, but thats 7 buying in a row lost in NL now.

and i didnt lose cause i limped, aa isnt folding. they both agreed i didnt lose because i limped, and they also agree that i didnt lose because i bought in too short. in fact they said i saved money, and should buyin less being so low on money, and they didnt blame me for not playing more poker. and both of those guys have poker as their only means of support, not counting mcGees wife. so i trust their poker advice.

actually mcgees really good advice is to just play more on seals, but i need a decent amount there first.

still trying to follow Kimlees chart, and since it dont show an option for 5 hands on the final betting round, but just 3 maybe she means i should never go over 3 hands at all times, even if it is the final round? not sure. all i know is i pissed off the backer with them huge overbets, sure cant do no more of them. must take it slow and easy, even if doing that means by july my roll will have only increased $100

todays samstown freeroll was NOT chopped early as it always has been. more bickering and stupidity over chopping than ive ever seen. one guy wouldnt chop, then when he does agree, another guy wont agree unless he gets $500, and even else splits even for far less, and hes not even near the chip leader, then everyone else says no to that deal, and yet way over half the field wants to give him that deal just to end the freeroll. seems none of them know how to play freerolls. eventually it did get chopped thank God, and i ended up with quite a bit more since it wasnt chopped early on. sickcallmggee got much of it. along with some gas comps.


and now i must sleep, grump and carmen never update their blogs anymore, guess i better keep mine going so u have at least something to read, Carmen said shes depressed, dont even see her on candycrush anymore on facebook, and grumps completely disappeared.

31 comments:

  1. WooHoo, I got mentioned in a Blog title. I've died and gone to TBC heaven... lol

    But in all seriousness, I think you are doing a good job grinding small profits and comps for the room down in Jean. I know you melted down one session for a -400 loss, but hopefully you can learn from it this time. I am not sure you'll get another cash infusion from a AP over at RTP, so just grind this roll up and prove to yourself you can do this for a living.

    As always, I am rooting for you.. Good luck!

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  2. You may not have lost that hand because AA is not going anywhere; but it's pure results oriented analysis. Take AA out of the hand, and now your limp costs you your stack when the straight gets there. The limp didn't cost you; but it doesn't mean it's not bad poker . . .

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    1. PPP The Voice of Reason!

      If you're going to short-stack it turns out that you need to understand how to play a short stack. I gather at the time this hand was played you had $37 in a 1/2 game? The only issue is how you get AIPF or drive the SPR down enough to shove any flop.

      But perhaps the biggest issue here is that anyone who starts shaking with anger getting stacked with KK in that spot simply doesn't have the temperament to play poker. Time to change the blog title, TBC.

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    2. anyone who gets stacked for under $50 and shakes angrily should not be playing - the money is too important and the temper is too short.

      It's $37 for crying out loud.

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  3. Can you explain to me how you went broke from over 1000 chips on SWC? I'm not sure I understand how, if you were practicing good bankroll management, you lost all of your bankroll? It concerns me that if you can't win on SWC, how can you win playing poker in real life?

    What games were you playing on there?

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    1. that was only 2 buyins of 600, i didnt mind putting the whole 600 in one game since it seemed like it was worth only about 1% of my roll as little as the chips are worth

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    2. Wow... so you were playing 600 immediately instead of building up a cushion and staying at 200? For someone who values every single dollar so highly, it seems that you squandered this opportunity.

      Are you planning on playing again?

      Good luck in the future. Next time, I hope you stay within the boundaries of your online bankroll.

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  4. Good luck.

    KK vs AA is hard to get away from. However if you did raise you might have gotten more information from the guy with AA. So not sure the limp was a good move.

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  5. I wouldn't consider limping with KK to be playing good.

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  6. Regardless of how you try to justify your play, you still did one of the big mistakes by limping with K-K. You, of course had no way of knowing that someone had A-A, but you opened the door to let the other limpers hit their hand. The A-A guy played his hand even worse.

    Tony, you have been in nirvana with spending all your time playing VBJ and talking VBJ on RTP. It seems like you put little thought or attention into poker anymore.

    So if your roll is $1622, that really means that without the money that Andy gave you it would be $872?

    It's not my business but you put it out for public consumption -- why did you chop the freeroll with SickCallMcGee when you were already giving him a $50 gas comp?

    You are a survivor, that is for sure. Not sure where you will be months from now, though.

    Good luck in Jean.

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  7. I'm sure the guy with pocket aces thought you played that hand great by limping also! I would have lost that stack as well however I wouldn't have been shaking with anger the way i would have played it.

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  8. dreamed i had rented a room in an old building downtown cleveland, had some woman staying with me, and to get into the room, u had to climb into a hole in the ceiling over the sink, and i was worried about falling.

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  9. I think you'd be making a huge mistake ever folding KK with $50 effective stacks at a 1/2 game. IMO, the money is going in at one street regardless of action.

    I want to point out something though: You claim this was an uber tight game, which is why you opt to limp your KK. Perhaps you would have (again, I think this is a huge mistake, but whatever - maybe you're a better player than I) been able to get away from the hand if you're being 3bet in an uber tight game. I know I wouldn't with $50 effective, but had you raised this hand like you should have to thin the crowd and not let everyone and their brother negate your huge statistical expectation with a hand like KK, the hand would have played out a bit differently.

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  10. no ones going to raise with aa in that game, not when they get either $100 or $200 for losing with AA, thats why they arent raising, they are trying to lose

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    1. Well, most regular bad players would not reraise with AA, but it is the wrong way to play it. Trying to lose with AA is the most idiotic thing to do. You should play it normal, treat the AA cracked promo as an insurance.

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  11. Tony, you played during AA cracked promo, should you be surprised someone limped with AA? Sure, it is the wrong approach to playing the AA promo, but you and most everyone do the same thing.

    It is hard not to lose your $37 stack with KK on that board, the only way is if you checked the turn (because 2 people called behind on the flop), and you read the others as having strong hands and fold. Pretty difficult with such a short stack.

    Remember, short stacks = higher variance and lower return (assuming you can play regular or big stacks well). You don't have much of a choice when you have small bankroll, but it is something to keep in mind.

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  12. You limp UTG with big pairs way too often!

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  13. Just so everyone knows, I never said that limping with KK was a great play. All I said, was no matter how that hand was played, he was losing that hand. No way does the AA hand fold. So even if he gets the 6,7 out by betting preflop, he is going to be playing for stacks after that flop. But you are right, at another casino, WITHOUT aces cracked promo, a raise might give him information. And even at Hooters if he raised a decent amount, and was called, it might give him some idea of what the guy might've had. But if he raised preflop, he would've pretty much been committed on the flop anyway, so why not wait to see if an ace flops first?
    But what do I know, I suck at poker!

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  14. P.S- With as short a stack as Tony had, I feel I would've just shoved Preflop and take my chances with KK. But if he is trying to get maximum value for his stack, it's ok to play it deceptively and hope to double or triple up. A 2,5,9 flop is usually a fairly safe board for KK, so I don't necessarily blame him for playing it how he did.

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    1. Well, we all know that a short stack in a $1/2 NL game in Las Vegas is just asking to get busted anyway.

      Hey Vegas Johnny -- I need to get your contact info at some point so that we can toss a few cards again during my next trip to Las Vegas. No Sams Town spread game, though. I did have good sessions at Bellagio and Luxor and plan to hit those rooms next trip.

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    2. When is your next trip lightning? I'm planning to go the first two weeks of July - might enter a WSOP event just to say I did it.

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  15. Tony:

    Wow - you and i BOTH missed out last night! I played three times at Bally's last week, and won 2 of 3, so went back on Saturday after getting back from Disneyland (bad beat - rained on Friday :-().

    I got there at about 8:15pm, and the bad beat had hit at PO 30 minute prior - table share at bally's was $2195.00! Damn...that would have been a nice score. I was told the bb was quad Qs to straight flush.

    Regardless, I did have an interesting hand play out: I had about $250.00 and was in early position, full ring; I had been active earlier in the game but pretty quiet for the past 5 orbits or so. I limp with snowmen and lots of limpers behind. Cut-off (nice kid, but not very good at poker) bumps to 13 and SEVEN of us call. Flop comes J74 rainbow. It checks to the cut-off who puts out $25.00, gets one call from a very tilty-cranky old guy; with it checking that far, I think this is a great place for a semi-bluff and stall for a bit and put out $75.00. Not much of a raise for that pot, but enough to give me a good push on the turn - which I was really hoping I wouldn't need! Cut-off folds, which is what I wanted, but TCOG calls. I'm worried there. Turn is a 10, which isn't great but not horrific. I push. TCOG calls. I'm pretty sure I'm dead at this point. River is a 2. I meekly eek out "8's" and wait for the cards to show. Nothing. I'm still pretty sure he's slow rolling (he was quite the jerk), but I turn over my cards...he keeps looking at his hand and finally tables AQ. I rake one I really didn't think I could win at showdown. Aren't those the best?

    s.i.

    p.s. - I know this is Tony's blog, but I really consider it The People's Blog! A place where all of us can show up and dump in whatever we would like. A potpourri of proletariat postings!

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    1. Wow. Those are the hands that give me nightmares! How often are you expecting, AJ et cetera, there?!?

      Nicely done!

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    2. I was really thinking AJ was the only live hand against me. A lot of the sets would have checked, so that had me a bit worried, but I think most would have bet our w 7 to the flop. The odds of the cut off just making a cbet there were pretty good, and so I felt I was probably 70% good.

      Still, scary.

      s.i.

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    3. Ha. I thought you were going to say he limped preflop and passively played AA.

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  16. Good to see you received your crackers and sardines and "are now eating better meals . . ."

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    1. Don't knock sardines, man. They're the nuts.

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  17. My blog is full of horror stories where I have "the dreaded pocket Kings" and yet I have never, ever limped with them. As pointed out, you were gonna lose that hand no matter what, but limping with them is bad, especially with a short stack.

    I've rarely played at a place with an Aces cracked promo and never played in a NL game with them, only 2/4. Sounds like it screws up the game because everyone who gets them is gonna limp. Yuck. I think Poker Grump has pointed out that he hates Aces cracked promos.

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  18. Aces cracked is great for folks who only care about the short term at the expense of making more money long term. Oh that feeling of getting your aces cracked while surrounded by the pleasant company of grumpy old nitty poker players and no extra money on the table. Oh the joy. Somebody punch me in the nuts

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    1. "Oh that feeling of getting your aces cracked while surrounded by the pleasant company of grumpy old nitty poker players and no extra money on the table. Oh the joy. Somebody punch me in the nuts"


      Lol, you make it some great, maybe I,ll not bother heading for the great gambling mecca of vegas after all.

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