Saturday, March 2, 2013

shortest blog post ever

new roll $883 or $1383 (your choice) and using a better system of bet sizing provided by a forum member of RTP. Think ive finally twiddled with this enough where im now +ev, but still with way too high a risk of ruin. (the ROR had to be increased to get me into +ev territory). ive always been +ev with comps, but i needed to be +ev even without comps. the link dont seem to post correctly as clickable for some reason, no idea why. weird that thread is up to 40 pages when it was only created a week ago.

http://www.roughingthepunter.com/showthread.php?t=3005&page=40

will see sickcallmggee tues to go to ssi to get that status letter, find out about case, im sure i was denied again, and now i need to do the 3rd appeal which takes about a year.

i really hate playing on sealswithclubs, because u cannot close the browser window. i had to turn the sound up to full volume to be able to browse websites while playing so i could hear a sound when the action gets to me since the table wouldnt popup.

Plo8monster on sealswithclubs must really be feeling weird right now. he always is on sealswithclubs but seldom has success getting a PLO8 game going except severly shorthanded. tonight he said he hadnt tried to start one and sat in my NL game. i had about 190 of my 200 chips left from the other day, and bought in for 40 of them. i had ran it up to over 125 when the following hand occured.

i had 99 and called plo8monsters raise to $6 preflop, i was directly on his left. flop comes up A56 with 2 hearts and i have 99. theres one other caller. i typed in chat that he should be careful, and that i KNEW i was going to win the hand. he checks, and i bet $2. other guy calls, he bets $10. i min raise to $18 to represent aa. other guy folds, he calls, and i guessed he did have an ace. wasnt sure earlier. turn comes 9. he bets the pot, i shoved, he calls with AJ, drawing dead. after losing that pot, he immediately left the table. i wonder what he was really thinking?

34 comments:

  1. Obviously he thought you were bluffing with your chat and the line you took, which you were.

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  2. He was prob thinking how terribly you played that hand on every street after the flop.

    Flop comes AXX.

    First you type in the chat "watch out"
    Second you bet $2 into an $18 pot???
    Third you call his raise to $10 (I know he doesn't have an ace)

    I find it funny that you think you played this hand well. At least it was funny money sorta

    I mean seriously what are you putting him on when he check raises the flop after raising pre? I'd be putting him on at least an ace or a stone cold bluff (polarized basically)

    And then you minraise back to represent AA. Anybody reading this blog think that represents AA????

    Unless I misunderstand the history pretty bad hand. Of course no mention of suits or other stack, etc. prob doesn't matter

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  3. i knew he was either on the ace or a stone cold bluff when he says $10, thats why i made it $18, so he would fold anything below an ace. no point in making a bigger raise when i can minraise. also once i hit the turn, knowing he had the ace for sure. then i can raise for value.

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  4. Tony, how the hell can you represent AA with the line you took, and the silly chat message you made? It makes no sense whatsoever.

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  5. This is why tony can't beat poker, instead he loses money on slots.

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  6. Sorry to hear that things haven't been going that well for you lately, Tony. I think trying to get back on SSI is a smart decision. Good luck in Jean.

    I saw what lollerskates posted about you on RTP. Just remember that for every guy like that there are dozens of us who always wish you the best.

    -Ian

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  7. Hmmm... I'm having some trouble posting a reply here, but I just wanted to drop you a note to wish you well, Tony. Sorry to hear that things haven't been going well financially. I think you made a smart choice in trying to get back on SSI.

    I saw the thread on RTP and just remember Tony that for every person like lollerskates there are dozens of us who are rooting for you. Good luck in all things...

    -Ian

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  8. That was the most fish tastic hand history ever.

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  9. Tony. No way you could possibly think you played it well, just because you won. You lucked out hitting your 2 outs on the turn.

    What were you going to to on the turn if you didn't hit your 9? Shove still representing AA? Your line shows he didn't believe you and you would've been stacked.

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  10. i was going to check/fold. the sole reason for the raise to $18 minraise was to see if he really had the ace. i didnt share the hand because i thought i played it well on the flop. i shared it because of the way i left him with his mind all messed up

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    1. You didn't though, he read you right and you outdrew on him

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  11. Tony -> yes he was polarized with an Ace or nothing. That doesn't mean he is bluffing half the time. It just means it is part of his range. I know almost nothing about this player but would expect him to almost never be bluffing. I only mentioned it due to the possibility and its only possible because you bet $2 and looked weaker than the weakest play ever so there stood an outside chance he was bluffing solely because he knew you had nothing.

    Also the only reason why he simply called your reraise on the turn was for value and to keep you in the hand (not cause he thought he was beat). You hit a lucky two outer or this hand has a different story

    I play hands bad too also. We all do. The key is to reflect on the hands and not the results and try to improve upon that. I apologize of my post is harsh but I'm trying to coach here

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  12. vook can u explain how his goal to "keep me in the hand" benefits him, when i will ONLY continue to stay in (after minraising him to $18) if he lets me hang around FREE, meaning i have to pay nothing to hit the free card which will leave him drawing dead. u dont want to let someone hang in drawing totally free who will fold to any bet, and always have u drawing dead if they hit

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    1. Tony, he doesn't know that you had 99. Your line/chat looks really bluffy, there was a flush draw and straight draw on the flop, perhaps he put you on a draw, and wanted to wait till the turn to commit his stack, who knows. This is nano-limit pker, hard to say if he is a good/decent/bad player from one hand, but in this hand, you were drawing really bad when he is ready to play for stack, not a good situation to be in.

      Tony says..."i shared it because of the way i left him with his mind all messed up"

      Seriouly??? You posted it to gloat how you messed up his mind? I guarantee you, the only thought he had in his mind is how much of a donkey suck out you are. Nothing to be proud about. If I were him, I would reload and rubbing my hands waiting to clean you out.

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  13. Tony I just read your hand analysis and have to say my assuming with your experience you were just playing scared and running bad was all wrong. You are probably best served getting on SSI, trying to play VBJ at a small edge and living in Jean with no expenses if you can make that work for you.

    Poker has passed you by even at the lowest levels and it would be best for you if you never returned to it. I'm not trying to be mean or run you down just tell you the truth. The thought process of the game has advanced to a very high level which you will never catch up to based on how stuck in your way's you are. You seem to have complete tunnel vision on almost everything with no ability to think laterally at all. That's not meant as a put down it's just the way you are. You will never beat poker again because the players are better than you and they always will be going forward!

    You should change your name to EBT, Everybody But Tony. Everybody but Tony learns. Everybody but Tony adapts. Everybody but Tony Improves. Everybody but Tony wants to improve.

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    1. did i ever say i think played the hand well? i posted it for its the entainment value i got out of fucking up his mind when i sucked out. i was wrong to think he would think i was ahead, but i did learn enough to be able to get max value on the turn instead of slowplaying the nuts. i knew id get called, so i did play the turn well. i also did right to not shove allin on the flop after he raised to $10.

      the real issue is the metagame. u see i have a lot of future +ev against him. (he will have the wrong idea, and think im a donkey). i was hoping he would rebuy on tilt, thinking im a sucker, but he was smart enough not to.

      how do u think one lousy hand shows anything about my live poker ability? this is why id love to have a roll to play live poker, so many people are misreading me right now id have a big edge once i get enough money together here in Jean to go play poker. of course, by then, ill probably have enough to do well enough in Jean where id just as soon not leave.

      remember i beat the sams town $2-6 for almost $2000 in 5 weeks, thats how i paid about $1200 to live those 5 weeks, and got the $1000 i lost playing machines that werent worth playing that month at sams town and boulder.

      my level of thinking at poker is way higher than u, for u cant see the bigger picture

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    2. Tony says..."the real issue is the metagame. u see i have a lot of future +ev against him. (he will have the wrong idea, and think im a donkey). i was hoping he would rebuy on tilt, thinking im a sucker, but he was smart enough not to."

      Metagame consideration in nanolimit online poker??? You got to be kidding.

      Tony says..."my level of thinking at poker is way higher than u, for u cant see the bigger picture"

      I may be able to buy that, except I read your earlier post saying you thought you were representing AA. May be you were thinking at such a high level that you have come full circle and went into the basement.

      Take it for what it is worth, but I have been sustaining >10bb/hour winrate at 1/2 and 1/3 live for over 5 years over thousands of hours. I have seen many of the hand histories you posted, not once have you included all the information necessary for a detailed analysis. May be you are trying to think at a high level, but it is kind of like building a high rise tower, but the foundation is missing. It won't end well.

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    3. "remember i beat the sams town $2-6 for almost $2000 in 5 weeks"

      I made $1,630 at PH last night and that really isn't a great Saturday for me.

      "my level of thinking at poker is way higher than u, for u cant see the bigger picture"

      I play poker for a living Tony. I have for a long time. I have a wife and a house and a segregated bankroll. Why don't you? How's that for a big picture!

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    4. Segregated bankroll is excellent advice. Eventually, Tony should have two rolls. One for life and one for investment. Investing roll should only be used on positive ROI machines and possibly very low limit poker. Those players stink and are easily beatable by any player who has knowledge of any basic poker strategy. Tony should avoid higher limit poker since the quality of the players gets exponentially better.

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  14. Zin, you are not a good detective lol

    I am reading the RTP stuff just for the normal TBC entertainment, and sadness. If TBC was such a good counter, and did it to perfection as he claims, he would have been tearing up the regular blackjack tables over the years. I was taught by a professional BJ counter and friend. Early on I pointed out many errors in TBCs BJ playing, and I am not even there to watch. Maybe he has improved--but I have doubts

    I mean, TBC can not concentrate on anything it seems, yet he can make a perfect count on cards? To be successful and make the counts work, you must be near perfection in counting. Small errors wipe out the small edges. Close in counting isn't like horseshoes.

    But whatever, might as well have someone giving him money and keeping him in housing I guess. Cause even if he were to hit rockbottom he will never choose anything but begging and gambling since he is so hooked into his addiction. Just my opinion that TBC does nothing to deserve straight handouts as he is one of the least sympathetic people you can ever run across.

    But, I do hope he can improve his life as best as possible...I just do not think it is through gambling he will do it, and I have thought that for some time.

    As far as who loler is...could be an old NeverBegger as he knows TBCs history pretty well, or just someone who has read everything posted last few years.

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    1. Zin, I saw your comment over at RTP. I doubt very much loller is WEC, they have very different posting styles.

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    2. Detective is not my field, lol. Making money is my specialty.

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  15. What happens when they take that machine away ?

    What is plan B ?

    Also, if that guy had had AA, you would of called him all sorts of shit, so don't large up on your 99.

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  16. Tony please answer these questions:

    1) what would you do if they removed your good machine from the Gold Strike?

    2) what would you do if they stopped giving as many comps for that machine?

    3) what would you do if they quit giving you food comps?

    4) what would you do if they told you they no longer wanted your business?


    Do you have a backup plan for any of the above scenarios?

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    1. 1. they still have that machine circus and Venetian
      2. more hours?
      3. eat less
      4. see #1

      do u think i have enough to play omaha8 at orleans? i wouldnt be able to afford a place to stay though

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  17. Losing $1000 on bad machines not worth playing...... Tony, you reading what you write? You'd never be in this bad of shape chasing $2 an hour in the middle of nowhere if you'd stay off those damn machines..Jeez Tony, how many times you going to start heading in right direction and blow it all on some stupid machine cause you couldn't stand to be stuck for the day?

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  18. Tony I wouldn't go to the Orleans unless your prepared to stand up for yourself in a BUNCH of verbal altercations. That's the angriest crowd in town and way worse than it used to be even a year ago.

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  19. No matter what the idiot over on RTP says, I am not lollerskates. I have no problem expressing my views on TBCs mental illness without needing even more personas to discuss his plight. I have stood my ground many times when people criticized me and I certainly would have opened an account under WECpoker over on RTP if I felt I needed to comment further. That is the name I have used on poker forums, and other forums for years *and WEC

    This name (Poker & Gambling 24/7) has something to do with a Google sign-up and was not an attempt to change identity and is connected with a long time email that TBC was aware of.

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  20. WEC standy for Willy Coyote if I remember correctly...

    Regardless, Lester

    PS: I am not lollerskates. So anyone still sleuthing that can decrement the suspect count by one.

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  21. For the record, I am not lolerskaters either, in case anyone is wondering.

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  22. Tony, seems like you worked out a sweet deal on ruffing the punter. Are you going to keep this blog alive?

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  23. Tony said on RTP, "...i do sit out as often as i can get away with it on negative counts. i need to start tracking how close it is to 80 cards..."

    I suggest you buy one of these to help you count to 80. Keep your hand and the device in your pocket.

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sparco-Products-Tally-Counter-w-Finger-Ring-Silver/19715931?findingMethod=rr

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