Thursday, June 20, 2013

Big changes coming soon, many of them scary and maybe for the worst

its critical that i be in vegas by June 25th to check into my room for a week that was paid about 2 weeks ago (reservation in my name). and of course, during the course of that week, my appt with legal aid on June 28 at 2pm. So i do need a ride there if people actually want me to better myself and be away from this VBJ machine.

Also, i wont be able to return to Jean in July because ill lose my internet access july 1, and the only way ill have the net is to remain in vegas and use free wifi at places such as sunset stations pokerroom and sportsbook, downtown goldspike in vegas, burger king trop and pecos, etc. so there wont be much desire to return to Jean if i will not be able to get online in my room. so i might as well use up the comps at the shell station when leaving.

the big question is when i do get to vegas, will i still have the same $942 i do now? if so im ok to start off like i did when with them same size rolls in the 1990s in $1-5 stud games, only now the game will be $2-6 holdem or omaha8 instead of stud, simply because $1-5 no ante no longer exists. if i was at the Taj Mahal, id still play $1-5 no ante, but it only goes very few hours a day now. remember in the early 1990s i was staying at the IP once, no other place to go, had a roll of over $900, and wasted $300 on a woman from an escort service id only meant to give about $100 or so to. at the time i thought i could live forever without ever going broke (about 20 yrs ago). now to me now, that would seem incredibly stupid.

or would i be better off to put quite a high percentage of it on UP and find a location to grind online UP at? (my room during the week i have it, and at a casino sportsbook or library once my time is up). unlike many people id much prefer a library to a mcd or starbucks because there is no time limit, and u dont feel a need to have to order food to be able to keep spending so much time there. Mc Gee thinks id win about $300 a week online, and i dont know if vook agrees with that assessment, but he should, so therefore he should think its a good idea. the only reason problem is the business on UP will dry up and there isnt many players there, especially once the other sites open up. there are too many online sites for NV to have them all succeed.

but what about if i am down to $600-700 when i get to vegas due to a losing session or 2 between now and then? that is my biggest worry and why i wanted to get out of here a lot sooner. almost had that losing session last night, recovered a little thank God. i am proud i kept to 3 spots, not 5 spots, and never bet over $8. have been working on having better discipline. Cutter thinks i can learn the discipline unlike many of his companions on RTP. and im still sure that if i had $2000, i really could play this machine forever without going broke, if i never hit the max bet again, never played the VP again, and never played 5 spots instead of 3 max again. and thats why better discipline needs to be achieved first. But how do u achieve better discipline? thru practice or through counseling?

The easiest way to coach someone at poker is by them watching u in action in a live game sitting behind u and u teaching them, while u play with thier money and explain why u played it the way u did after the hand. at least thats how people sometime coach others online.

the biggest negative change i see coming up is AFTER july 2nd, when ill lose my modem internet, and when ill no longer have a place to stay nor comps or internet to return to Jean. Thats when i have to start using the sleeping bag, and to be a little cooler, should probably take the bus to wendover. to save money, u take the bus to saltlake and then the shuttle to wendover and not greyhound. or a $18 megabus to cali, also cooler sleeping outside. the BAD thing about those 2 options it would screw up playing on UP as an option. i dont see any way id win enough on either stakes, or by playing omaha and winning, to pay even the cheaper $154 a week place by samstown again, let alone the quite a bit higher place in north LV. i would have to get incredibly lucky during the week, id have to spend $5 daily on bus fare that week too, and one day id be tied up at legal aid a lot of the day without time to go play. also the attorny will be disappointed i wont have any papers from drs to show him except for the paperwork he will get from my ssi records ssi will mail him everything if he is approved.

so we all understand now why wasting $94 to get into vegas would be dumb, staying here is also dumb, and not showing up for a place thats paid for would also be dumb. the other big reason to be out of Jean is ill be out of food and about at the end of my laundry. and once i am homeless again, i sure will be giving up the pans, cant carry them everywhere i go. the laptop sleeping bag and some shirts will be the limit so ill lose almost everything since no one is ever willing to store anything.

inflation is my biggest enemy. in the old days of $1-5 no ante stud, no jackpot drop, the single $1 blind game at osheas, free weekday rooms at IP, $50-75 a week rooming houses of years ago, the $942 wouldve been enough. its the poor that suffer the most when inflation hits, especially the most destitute.

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  1. Tony sleeping outside in July is not a good option. You have to make these appointments because you want to for yourself not someone else. If you decide to check out the shelter give me some notice and I will see about getting you over there even if its just to check it out. Not sure if they provide overnite stays. Just give me as much notice as possible. Just keep it in mind it's not going anywhere.

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  2. The people who live there full time usually have addictions so they don't want them to have access to the outside so they don't slip. They have alot of different services there, one may work for you. If u wanna check it out for an hour or so ill get you over there and even throw in a five course meal at BK. Keep it in mind. If you don't like it no big deal.

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    1. probably should make sure people understand that u mean if i was in vegas, so they wont think u mean Jean to vegas when u said that wouldnt work out.

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    2. Ok. Yes I could get you transportation if you are in Vegas. Not from Jean. Just need a bit of notice if you ever decide to at least check it out.

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  3. I work in a public library and though I can't speak specifically on Vegas libraries, I can tell you that many DO have time limits on their computers. Especially if they are busy and people are waiting. You may be limited to one hour and then the software will automatically kick you off. You would go ballistic if this happened to you in the middle of a hand. Also, I'm not 100% sure if you would be allowed to play online poker on a library's public computer. They have policies of what patrons can do/see online. Make sure you check if you decide to try that. They will kick you off if you're doing something against the policy. You'd then pitch a fit and find yourself adding libraries to the list of places you're banned from.

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    1. now why do u think i wouldnt be able to access their wifi from my own computer without needing to use theirs? im well aware their computers dont allow u to download anything.

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    2. I've used my laptop on the wifi system at Vegas libraries, and even played online poker there. This was back in 2007 or 2008, so it's always possible they've added some sort of filter/blocker to prevent people from gaming, porn surfing, etc., but I doubt it.

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    4. You're right, Tony. I wasn't thinking about your laptop. You'd probably be fine on your laptop.

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  5. won $12 VBJ, new roll $954, and lost the last $2 on lock. Speaking with various friends in an effort to try and figure a way to take advantage of the free $50 on UP, this would be able to be cashed out easily and seems very risk free to get $50 if u play the absolute tiniest limits as long as they are just enough to get raked. $50 is a lot to me right now.

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  6. using the last 15 chips on seals right now. then ill have to play on UP when i can. at least i looked at the lobby, (i can still see it though i cant login and play) and there seems to be multiple very low stakes tables and sngs and the sngs pay 4 spots but its too top heavy, too much goes to first. i miss the good old days of stars and party. not only was i able to win, i won enough to support 2 losing players. cheap monthly rent made it stress free and i felt like i didnt need much. id never be in this mess today had i saved about $5000 or so i gave away back then, and im sure the money in gifts stakes and loans in the last year ive received was less than what i gave others still. but at least these new online NV sites looks like will have better bonus offers and easier qualifying. i cant miss this weeks offer. so ive got to be in vegas early enough to get that in by midnite monday.

    am strongly thinking while in vegas instead of paying bus fare daily to play in games too high for my roll, i should probably take Vooks advice about playing more tables at once and just sit in my room online. is this right?

    new roll $972, won $18 VBJ. im NOT losing on this VBJ anymore overall either, i just dont have enough to play it. remember about a month or so ago i think it was i briefly dropped to the $700s, this was a week or 2 i think before lightning came to town

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  7. You asked me to reply on THIS post, rather than the other. So here you go. I will also include your response, so everyone can see the excuses you're already making. The offer still stands, Tony. Get to work on my request, and I'll help make things considerably easier for you.


    I will put my offer of free rides BACK on the table under the following conditions, as per YOUR offer:

    You agree to actively seek counseling and complete one month of appointments without excuse. I will take you, and when I leave Vegas, make sure someone takes you to your last appointment.

    Actively seek aid through legal, actively seek an income based Doctor and seek forward progress with your SSI claim.

    Make a list of ten places you would like to work, and why you would like the job. I will then assist you in applying and interview preparation. You must follow through until you are employed.

    Come up with a reasonable 30 day plan for housing. I will assist with making it a reality.

    I look forward to your response.



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    Tony Bigcharles June 20, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    i would suggest reposting this on the NEW blog entry, where a ton more people will see it, who are probably done with this old blog entry where it will be buried in comments. id also suggest anyone can get comments much more easily just by hitting on subscribe by email whenever they comment (all those who complained about not being able to read comments) i am certainly not told of anyones emails. it will take time to come up with all of this of course, i cant think of any places actually fun to work that would consider hiring me. the places that id enjoy i cant get and the place that paid a lot of money fell through, but id have only enjoyed the money, not the actual job. there is no way to get housing at all as broke as i am until i have an income coming in first. shelters such as where tatudes friend works, have funny rules about not allowing u to use a laptop on the premises while in their program. why i dont know. even an income based dr isnt free. the easiest thing u are asking is the counseling but first we need to see if the old UNLV counselor would ever take me on again

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  8. Other people have dealt with inflation by being in jobs that also take account of inflation by getting annual raises (even it is is just COL raises or in line with government regulation for min rate).
    You have made the decision not to have a job so have negated getting that advantage. You rely on gambling, which has no concept of inflation, (3-2 is still 3-2). So as inflation rises, your wins are worth less and less. Effectively you have chosen a path which pays less every year, even if the income value remains the same.

    Therefore by your own logic you have chosen a path with no inflation provision, and therefore have no right to question or moan about it. The only way to beat it is to win more, so for every $100 you win this year, you might need to win £103 next year to have the same standard of living.

    This would assume you have a way of winning money in a regular manner, which you don't have.

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  9. casinos room
    Reading this post reminds me of my old room mate! He always kept talking about this. I will forward this article to him. Pretty sure he will have a good read. Thanks for sharing!

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  10. So, you (1) have a room paid for in Jean until you need to leave for Vegas; and (2) are worried about maintaining your $950 roll until you get to vegas.

    I think I've come up with a solution. Try to follow (for it's complex): DON'T FUCKEN GAMBLE the next few days. For fucks sake, Tony, show just a touch of self control. If you want people here to be "proud" of you, then show some restraint. There is absolutely no need for you to gamble any more at jean. So, just don't do it.

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    1. +1 PPP, i was thinking the same thing.

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    2. I was going to post this same thing but probably with slightly different language.

      We all know it's not an option though

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    3. This is like telling Tony not to breathe.

      What would be the point in living?

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  11. Tony,

    Your most recent blog is full of “if” and “used to”. Why don’t you make a decision to not be so damn lazy and instead of playing BS games on your computer, Candy Crush, etc, get to work finding housing or a job.

    You use many things as an excuse, some of which are plausible but most are total BS. You can work, but don’t’ want to because it is not fun (this is what you told Jennifer).

    Either accept the fact that you are pissing your life away and keep begging for funds or do something about it. You may be able to win at low stakes poker against tourists, but you choose not to play those games and want to play Stud or Omaha with the locals in out of the way casinos. If only someone would have told you to keep records, oh wait…. many of us did! You could analyze your stats and determine where, when and what games were most profitable, but you are too damn lazy to even do this, or you come up with the I forget excuse. BS.

    I will be in Vegas in August. My offer stands. I will meet up with you and stake you in a tournament or two. I will take you shopping as well and if you need a ride to an appointment that will lead to a job or benefits I will help out. One caveat, you must meet me on time. If I am doing you a favor I am not going to stand around and wonder if you are going to show up. No excuses, not blaming others for your woe.

    I wish you all the success in the world, but unless you get off your lazy ass you will never overcome your problems.

    Good luck,

    snevman

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    1. Yes snev, on the one hand you chastise Tony for being so lazy, then turn around and reinforce that same laziness with free offers of rides and stakes. Why would he ever change?

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    3. I feel staking Tony in a $100 tournament is +EV and may help him as well as be profitable.

      I don't see how offering him a ride is reinforcing laziness. It is helping himself reach out for assistance. If he needs a ride to help get counseling or to help get on a housing list I am all about that. I won't give him a ride to a "good VBJ machine" or some where else.

      Good luck,

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  12. Inflation is the least of your problems!

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  13. Tony, I must say that is the most creative way to get a stake, by disguising it as a coaching session. Kind of dumb though not to take a sure thing in coaching fees. Sign of gambling addiction for sure.

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  14. Hey Tony,
    What about that job cleaning offices that was offered to you? Cleaning offices is easy work. Dump the trash, vacuum the carpets and the hardest part is mopping the floor. $10 per hour is a decent rate for this type work.

    You CAN do this. My 15 year old helps me all the time. Very easy to pick up the routine.

    After work gring on line then on your days off you can play live. A chance to build a larger roll.

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    1. If this is a legit offer, it sounds perfect for Mr. Tony.

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  15. new roll $846, lost $126 VBJ, but never made a bet over $8

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    1. So, all you had to do was sit in your room, maybe read a book and relax for a couple of days before heading into Las Vegas and stay away from the machines.

      But as always you know better and decided to play them.

      Who's fault is it that you just dropped another $126 of your meagre life savings bank roll? Can't possibly be yours, can it Tony? Must have been one of the people not available to drive you into Las Vegas before June 25.

      Every single person, me included, keep telling you not to play the machines. We are all so fucking dumb, your haters and your friends. Thank god you are a genius, and you know better.

      Koala

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    2. Some fools never learn. Tony there is no machine on earth that is beatable with the size of your roll.

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  16. So you're just ignoring everyone regarding a job.. and playing VBJ punting money instead?

    You do realize that you're one bad session away from full blown monkey tilt, right?

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    1. not ignoring anyone, just dont know what to say. i want to wait til i lose the rest of my money before i get a job, who knows i might do extremely well with the rest of the money playing only poker in vegas and come right back up to a high enough level to afford housing again and to play daily poker again. as long as i still have the $800, all is not lost and its too early to get a job.

      u should just take me into vegas, and find a counselor willing to see me, and i promise ill keep all my appointments each week. and also try to get a dr and go to that appointment. and if i lose the rest of the money, then ill see about the job JJ offered.

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    2. Tony, if you lose the rest of your money:

      1) how are you going to afford to take the bus to your job or a place to stay

      2) how will you afford to eat

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    3. Also, how are you going to do extremely well at poker? You are afraid to play games in which you can score big.

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    4. You do realize that job offers aren't open ended and permanent right?

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    5. Tony, you are in no position to be striking deals with people. Be a man and do what YOU have to do.

      And dealing with issues after you last dollar is gone is a simply brilliant idea

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  17. deposited $50 on UP, so i now have $59 there that does not yet count as part of my roll, but will soon once i am in vegas. won $8 on VBJ, so not counting the UP money, i am down to $804. i just have to get the 100 raked hands in before midnite monday, and then ill get $50 in free cash on Wed that can be immediately withdrawn or left on UP, but once i am in vegas, money on UP will be the same as cash, and it would be wise to do all my playing on UP. for i cant afford bigger games, need to be away from where any machines are located, and its safer than having the money in cash or in the bank. also it would save me paying for city bus fares to play live.

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  18. not sure why all the readers who used to tell me i was addicted all the time are suddenly denying i have an addiction simply because they dont want their comfort disrupted by having to actually do something helpful. i am an addict. the first thing an addict must know before he can help him is that he is powerless to overcome the addiction on his own. yet many people think i have the willpower to sit in my room, and not play. if that was the case, i wouldnt be an addict then would i? u cant have it both ways. so that is a lie straight from the devil that i can just sit in the room and not gamble. i cannot do that, i dont have the mental strength or willpower to do that. and of course just because i play certainly dont mean ill lose, remember i came back to $1400 from $750 once not long ago. But yeah its not been good and i could easily continue to go down, thats why i was in such a hurry to leave Jean instead of waiting. i only got off the machine because im about to walk to the buffet and eat but i came to my room to grab my laptop first. out of food u remember. got about $47 in comps still. (more if i check out and get back sat and suns room of $42 total).

    i dont think many of u understand how powerful an addiction is. i do, and this is why i wish i couldve gotten close to Carmen and spent time with her before she got locked up for the next 16 months lightning somehow discovered.

    Would the same people advising me to sit in the room and not gamble (almost everyone) also advise a drug addict about to die if he dont stop to sit in a crack house surrounded by drugs but just not to use them, if they knew he was an addict powerless to stop, or would they pull him out of there and into another enviroment as quickly as possible, even if he had to sleep outdoors, or on Vinces porch. or at a shelter but not the one who bans u from using a laptop, that wouldnt work out. nor would joining a program since im checking into a place in vegas for a week july 25th. either i am so badly addicted i can not overcome it without help from a counselor, or im not addicted. which is it?

    u see, everyone wants to have it both ways, either that, or they dont understand addictions and how seriously it is. i think anyone who thinks im not addicted to gambling is a fool. granted the gambling wouldnt be harmful if i had the right bankroll, so someday ill be ok, but right now i dont have the right bankroll.

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    1. You finally admit to being an addict, I guess that is a start. The rest of your post makes it obvious you don't really want to deal with your addiction, nor acknowledge the seriousness and harmfulness it has on you. You won't get better unless you really want to, I hope you get to that point before everyone gives up.

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    2. You seriously have no clue how much gambling has ruined your life. Since you dont get it, keep on keeping on.

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    3. You are hilarious. You know you are addicted...powerless to not gamble. You are willing to join a program....but not now because you are checking into a place in Vegas for a week (to gamble).

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    4. Tony, the whole "Addiction thing" boils down to this.
      Yes- you are an addict.
      But someone picking you up from Jean and dropping you off in Vegas isn't going to help because you are a gambling addict.
      You've proven time and time again that you will gamble in Vegas, the only difference is that you can sometimes, for small periods of time, contain your addiction to machines while playing poker....
      That is until you have a losing session and then you have a monumental blow-up on the machines pissing away thousands.

      So, people bringing you to Vegas is not your solution.
      The solution, as others have said, is going somewhere that you cannot gamble. Finding a way to go home with your family for a while. Something like that.
      But, even at that you'd still put money on Seals or whatever online site exists now a days and blow it there.

      And your thought process on "Gambling wouldn't be harmful if I had the right bankroll..." There is no right bankroll. Your addiction will cause you to lose all your money every single time- you've also proven this

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  19. And you can't have it both ways either Tony. You can't say the first thing the addict needs to do is admit he has a problem and they need help with their addiction and then say but you don't want to get help until your week in Vegas is done. Just bringing you to Vegas is not getting you into a different environment. You say you want help but not yet and not at any place that doesnt allow you to have your laptop.

    You should not wait until you lose all of your money to see about that job because it usually takes about three weeks to get your first paycheck so you would need some money to live on until then.

    The answer to your question about your addiction you answered yourself with your responses. You are so totally addicted to gambling that you need help. You state you have a genius IQ so you should be able to see that by saying you want help but just not yet shows you how bad your addiction is. And even if your bankroll was higher it would still be harmful. I will use the same example you used. If you get off of crack and then go back on it you just start the spiral over again. An addict has to stop completely to get better. You can't just have one drink or one hit of a drug or one hand of poker or one spin of the machine.

    If you were serious about getting help with your addiction, you wouldn't be putting restrictions on the help or when. If you were serious, you would go straight to the help, not wait until your week in Vegas was up.

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    1. i said id be willing to try to get help (counseling) as soon as possible, the earliest someone would be able to get me in. but if i can make enough from poker to get by, there would be no need to get a job. getting the help to stop the addiction should be 100x more important than getting any type of job anyway. and i cant go straight to the "help", have to FIND the counselor first.

      sure its an addiction, but that dont mean its harmful. its only harmful if u lose, if u win, the quality of ur life is greatly improved. and theres no way to know if its harmful or helpful in advance because u dont know if u will lose or not. thats how gambling is a lot different than drugs, which always destroys a life. but gambling sometimes has vastly improved the quality of someones life when they win HUGE.

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    2. "...but gambling sometimes has vastly improved the quality of someones life when they win HUGE."

      Tony:

      What you're not acknowledging is that your gambling addiction HAS proven harmful. You aren't able to just grind out on poker. Everytime you get a roll going, your addiction leads you to either the pit or the machines, and you leak money away. You're an addict, and that addiction keeps you from being succesful as a grinder. So, YES, it does mean it's harmful. It has been demonstrated time and again in your own life.

      I've said it before, you are good enough to grind 1-2 against tourists and make some scratch. You're not good enough to play 1-2 against good players and win, and unfortunately, you're not good enough to grind 1-2 against tourists AND overcome your addiction leak. You give away too much of your hard earned money on machines or pit games. What would be different next time? You don't have an anwer for that...

      s.i.

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  20. the machine was full as i walked back to my room from the buffet and ill be in the krill freeroll on seals at 11pm, so i probably wont be on the VBJ again tonight. hope i win that and the tourny im in now with the last 10 chips out of 15 so i can have a way to play on seals til im in vegas. 10 seals chips is only worth $1

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  21. You don't get to pick and choose. Not and receive any help from me. You want to beg for assistance. I offer to spoon feed you help, at my own expense and trouble and you want to tell me that some of it isn't necessary?

    Counseling alone won't help you. You believe that you know everything and that gambling is still okay for you. It isn't. It's also the easiest of tasks on my list of prerequisites for you to complete.


    I do not believe that you will pay the $20 or $40 a sliding scale doctor would charge for an office visit to see you. I do not believe you will complete a list, then apply and accept a position if offered. I do not believe that you will develop and stick to ONE housing arrangement for 30 days. If you won't go out of your way for yourself, why should I?

    You've grown too accustomed to people bailing you out. You're more of a hustler and pan handler than handicapped person in need of help. So go panhandle. If you want to live off the charity, kindness and hard work of others.. Go for it. But it won't be me. If I wanted to feed a stray, I'd get a puppy.

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  23. http://youtu.be/hvKyBcCDOB4?t=1m58s

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  24. So, you lost another $126 fucking around gambling on VBJ and put $50 online to fuck around with....but spending money on a cab to Vegas is a waste of money?
    You want to wait until you have no money left before looking for a job? Most people would think that $800 in total net worth would be the point at which looking for employment would be of the utmost priority!
    So, when your $800 is gone...and you decide to man up and get a job...what exactly are you planning on doing if you need to buy new clothes for work or pay for the bus to get to work or eat for the week or two before your 1st pay check arrives?
    The people who are "backing" you, sending you money, buying you food, doing your laundry and driving you around are merely enabling you to continue on your downward spiral.
    When Koala shipped you the $165 or whatever it was to fix up your bill....all he really did was take that worry of the bill away and allow you to spend the equivalent on gambling.
    You are not a charity Tony. The money people are spending on you should be going towards a far more worthy cause.You should be praying to your God and thanking him that so many suckers have walked into your life and bailed you out over and over again....but don't forget to ask him for how much longer can you milk this cow?

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  25. trying to sleep, looking at bravo, seems this year they have a $10-20 stud8 game at the rio. this is the first year ive ever not played at the rio, why didnt they offer that last year and all the years before? i looked for it every year but the floor back then never offered it below 50-100. i looked for other games too they only offered at very high stakes so i didnt play. seems to be more games this year at smaller stakes, although i do remember the 10-20 omaha8 before. but certainly not stud8. also i never knew the monte carlo has $2-6 either, or that the orleans jacked their NL game up to $1-3

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  26. The games might have increased due to WSOP.

    Get a job or a sign and find a corner.

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  27. The 10-20 stud8 game is new this year and is fairly soft.

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  28. tony this is so simple but i think u will grasp why this would work for u til june 25th...

    stay in ur room and read the bible!

    even if u have already read it cover to cover (both old and new testament) just do it again.

    u cant possibly have a single argument to not try this....

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  29. Gambling Addicts, Problem Gamblers and their loved ones have the best national health resource that exists for any of the addictions. At 1-800-522-4700 they can get help from a professional at 28 call centers that serve all 50 states, every day of the year, 24 hours a day!

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  30. RECOVERY PROGRAM

    Here are the steps which are a program of recovery:

    1. We admitted we were powerless over gambling - that our lives had become unmanageable.
    2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to a normal way of thinking and living.
    3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of this Power of our own understanding.
    4. Made a searching and fearless moral and financial inventory of ourselves.
    5. Admitted to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
    6. Were entirely ready to have these defects of character removed.
    7. Humbly asked God (of our understanding) to remove our shortcomings.
    8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all.
    9. Make direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
    10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong, promptly admitted it.
    11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
    12. Having made an effort to practice these principles in all our affairs, we tried to carry this message to other compulsive gamblers.

    The 12 Step Program is fundamentally based on ancient spiritual principles and rooted in sound medical therapy. The best recommendation for the program is the fact that "it works."

    Gamblers Anonymous would like to indicate that we are not soliciting members. Our intention is to highlight that gambling for certain individuals is an illness called "compulsive gambling." Gamblers Anonymous provides the message that there is an alternative to the destruction of compulsive gambling and this alternative is the Gamblers Anonymous program.

    Our ranks are filled with members who have recovered from the illness by stopping gambling and attaining a normal way of life. These members remain ready to help any individual who passes through the Gamblers Anonymous door.

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  31. I just lost my whole 15k bankroll today Tony, I feel your pain. I lost it on baccarat.

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  32. Not sure what I'm going to do now besides get a crappy job. I feel like fucking hell. Not sure what to do.

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  33. at Vince's house while he is at work, playing on UP, getting in my 100 hands and quite a bit more, his roommates are over here. They also play online UP, for quite a bit higher stakes.

    cooldave sent me a DM on twitter asking me when id like to go into vegas, and offered to pick me up. so i checked out today, which got me back some comps, and since he didnt need any gas, i bought a $73 carton of marlboro reds at the gas station with my comps to use them all up, and to resell for $4-5 a pack here in vegas.

    we went to the suncoast, left my things in his car, and he handed me $100 for the stud8 game, and he said he knew he could trust me to just be honest and tell him how i did. and i ended up cashing out $323, and Vince watched me win a big hand or 2 right as he arrived to pick me up. (this was like 5 hours after cooldave dropped me off). so Vince and i got in his car, and we called cooldave to meet him, met him in the parking lot of redrock, got my stuff out of his car, and he took $200 and let me keep $123. im just glad people know i can be trusted to be honest and not lie and say i lost all the money if i actually won instead. it helps me get stakes when people see im trustworthy. he also said he could stake me in that game again, and give me a lift over there from where ill be staying next week.

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  34. Tony glad your trip is starting well. Sticking to poker is the key.

    I'm helping Tony Not play ANY machines for the next week. He can feed the gambling monkey on his back with poker. If he plays a machine in the next 7 days all th Josie help stops. All. Done. I'm serious. Even though I'm in the process of assisting him get advertising at $100+....among other shit it all stops.

    If anyone sees Tony playing a machine please let me know.

    Tony, I hope you think I'm worth abstaining for a week. I guess we will find out.

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    1. Sticking to poker is the key to what exactly? He's addicted to gambling. Not to VBJ. Not to machines. Gambling. He's addicted to gambling.

      People like you just aid his delusion that he can support himself through gambling. He can't. His poker game just isn't good enough.

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    2. Well if he touches a machine in the next seven days, the aid ceases.

      I appreciate your opinion. Something to think about.

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    3. Sticking to poker ups his odds of not being homeless. No machine play will allow his roll to grow.

      He can't support himself through gambling. He could support himself through poker...but only poker....but no self control to do this. Let's try for a week. If he can't II m out. I'll no I cannot help him and will stop all help immediately.

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  35. Tony Cooldave is good people. Never met him in person but have spoken to him in the past. Sounds like the staking arrangement worked well. Stating the obvious here but stick to poker. At least the next week if nothing else. I've never had any reservations when staking you. You've always been honest and got back to me with results. Never worried a bit and I've been ripped off on a stake by someone else. Make sure to make that appointment this week. Don't get too comfortable and pass it up. I should be in town soon and might actually have some spare time to play a bit of poker.

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    1. I've met cool Dave and he's a great guy. very good person imho.

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  36. Tony,

    Can you explain what you would hope to get out of counseling?

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    1. to somehow never make another bet that is not +ev, what i truly need is to not make bets i know are foolish, such as the 98% VP ones i played at the goldstrike when stuck and frustrated. and the second thing i need to learn is to quit when stuck and not to bet too much trying to get it back, even if they are "good" bets to be making. nothing is really all that good if im overbetting my roll. the very reason im sitting here at Vinces house only playing online instead of going to the casino to play $1-2 NL. i know i cant really afford $100 bets even in situations favoring me 60-40.

      not sure really what limit is best for me online either

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    2. Tony how you liking UP?

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    3. Tony I don't think that is a realistic expectation to have regarding counseling. You need to stop all type of gambling and approach poker as your jib, your business and treat it as such. I know most people will disagree but there are pro poker players who have been treated for their gambling issues but continue to play poker. Getting assistance and a permanent living situation will help you feel more secure. You have a big problem and it won't be easy but you can overcome this if you put some effort into it. You've found a way to survive many years on little money. Most if not all would not be able to do that. Make your appointment this week. Make a few changes see how they work. Good luck with things

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  37. $73 carton of cigs, Holy Shit! How much for 1 pack $10? When I used to smoke 20 years ago, I would get a carton of Marlboro reds from the Indian casino smoke shop for $10 with no tax.

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