Monday, September 30, 2013

NEVER join a tourny when u know u are going to need to sleep soon

Yeah id been doing quite well in tournys on Bovada, (turned an original $20 deposit into over $1000) no one else here couldve done that, and still have more than the $48 i had on Bovada i came to Jean with. (and thats allowing for 3 $20-25 deposits) i was feeling like id missed out on something in life by playing so few Mtts and mostly cash back in the good old days of stars, and that maybe i should start playing more of them.

So after joining 2 omaha tournies, one PLO and one PLO8, one for $2 and one for $10, one with about 40 entries and one with about twice that many, and taking 1st place in both of them at the same time, i was feeling pretty good about bovada, (and thats an even harder feat for anyone to do).

So after returning to my room from playing VBJ, and still being out a little on it for the evening, (from the previous last big drop of $150-200) i decided since the money on Bovada isnt part of my roll, I wanted a way to try and get another big WU moneyorder without taking any risk to my roll, and without any way for it to decrease. (this type of thinking is why i dont want to consider Bovada as part of my bankroll).

Tournies with low starting stacks and turbo blinds 3-6 minutes, i dont do well in. tournies with bigger starting stacks and 12-15 min blinds i do well in, and those were the type of tournies i joined, not thinking about the fact id need to play about 4 hours to reach the money and about 8 hours to reach the final table. decided to play them seriously and join 4 at once.

the $5 $5000 guar, the $10 $15k guar, the $50 PLO8 $5k guar, and the $10k guar $25 contender series knockout.  and i ended up busting out of 2 of them within the first 2 hours, but not due to poor play. but when i busted out of the 3rd one (omaha) i shouldve laid it down to his pot size bet on the flop.

was then down to 1 tourny and was struggling not to fall asleep over 3 hours later, and kept dozing off several times. somehow i made it to about 75th place for $15 for my $5. but yeah my balance on Bodog dropped quite a bit during those tournies.

now ive gotten plenty of sleep and am finally well enough rested to play some tournies, but i dont want to play any now. But yeah joining a tourny when u arent totally prepared to be at ur sharpest for the next 7-9 hours isnt a good idea. All of u who play live should remember that.

its true tournies on Bovada are easier that tournies elsewhere. But im not sure if that would also apply for the $50 ones. Never really played any that high back on stars, it always felt like too much, except for when i got staked in the sunday million.

Havent called Vince and he hasnt called me either to see if i want to move in, so i assume that means his roommates are still living there. Wonder if Jim was able to come up with the rent? and yeah i do not want to be without a microwave the next time im in an apt on my own, so im really glad hes storing that for me in Annes garage. i wanted it here with me in Jean in case i got a ride to Reno from here or to Laughlin without having to come back into vegas, but he refused to bring it.

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  1. Tony, the title of this post shows that you have learned a lot about your poker abilities. For, I totally agree that you should not join a poker tournament if you are going to sleep. Keep up the good work!

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    1. Morning P3, did you play poker or just mash buttons this weekend?

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    2. I played some sweet, sweet VP for a couple of hours. I actually spent most of the weekend watching football (college/NFL) while monitoring my 10 Fanduel contests. I've found something else to obsess on . . . Will update the blog tomorrow after MNF puts week 4 of the NFL to rest ...

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    3. How legal is Fanduel? No problems depositing or cashing out?

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    4. They claim it is entirely legal. hat fantasy sports is exempted from regulation.

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  2. hmm seems i was just invited via twitter to write a guest post for cardplayer

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    1. WELL THAT JUST PROVES HOW PATHETIC CARD PLAYER HAS BECOME

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    2. Are you going to do it, Tony? You really should take advantage of that - you never know where it might lead.

      s.i.

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  3. "(turned an original $20 deposit into over $1000) no one else here couldve done that"
    Tony - I take exception to your statement. I know quite a few other readers "here" who would take exception to that statement as well.
    While you should feel proud that you won $1k from Bovada, don't put others down in the process by making false claims.

    I want to ask, though, why do you feel that no one else can run $20 up to $1k? As a professional, you should be doing this on a monthly basis.

    Tell me, though... you never shared hands from that tournament. I can't help but wonder if you always got your money in good every time or you lucked out a little bit. Can you share some of the tougher hands you had to work through?

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    1. Key hand was his A5 beating the villain's AQ....

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    2. further proof showing TBC counts more on luck then actual skill

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  4. i wouldnt remembered the hands by the end of the tourny, let alone now. im really pissed right now, my bovada balance just dropped by $100.

    i didnt want to play such microstakes as 2c5c PL08 and no seats were open 10c25c 25c50c so i sat at 50c$1 and bought in $100 cause i never get anywhere playing shortstacked. yeah its too big a buyin, but at least my roll isnt being decreased any if i lose.

    (yes i know this is the wrong way to look at it, cause im still just as pissed off). so i was whittling down, was down to about $70 of it when the following hand occurs. (keep getting forced to call raises preflop with hands like KKQJ and i feel like playing them just in case all high cards come in multiway action, but i know better) anyway heres the hand.

    i had A5AJ suited, and am the raiser, get 2 callers. flop comes KK9 rainbow, and i bet (dont think im supposed to check am i? after he checks? and one guy calls. turn comes 5 he checks, and i check, assuming he might have K and if not hes drawing thin. meaning giving a card wont hurt me. A comes on river, he finally bets the pot, and i shove, and he has KKKK. wouldnt u shove there too?

    and i do NOT feel most professionals work $20 up to $1000. no other professionals would ever try to work with only $20. theyd keep a large roll and make fun of my $20, this has been happening my whole life people telling me how dumb it is to try to play with $20, and the need for a big roll online.

    thats no different than thinking u can make a living playing live poker starting with $200.

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    1. And this is why you are doomed to fail. If your game is not available, then DON'T GAMBLE until it is. Why did you have to play the larger game? Why not take a break or do something else? Tony, no matter how much skill you may or may not have at poker, your addition to gambling and inability to enjoy doing anything else will always be your downfall.

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    2. Tony, you had more than $20 online, and this was a free $20 tourny ticket you used. People win much more than $1k every day online with $20 or smaller buyins, just take a look on Stars. Tournys results have very high variance, how you run over 10-20 tournys may not reflect how u do long term. If u are good at them, then keep grinding them, but please, please play within your bankroll. Keep playing small field low buyins, that is where u find the weakest competition, and small field reduces the variance.

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    3. You should be able to work up a roll from $0 to $1k or more. Yes, you're correct that most "professionals" who use poker as a sole source of income must have a proper bankroll. But the same professionals tilt minimally, don't say things like they don't want to play microstakes and play 80% of their online roll (and 5-10% of their liferoll) like you stated by playing .5/1 O8. They also play games that they're comfortable with and can win - they don't play VBJ for free rooms.

      Look, I admire the fact that you've made it this far in life with the skills and problems that you've been given. You should be proud of yourself. However, you should always be looking to do more and minimize the bad parts of yourself. In other words, you need to be more involved with your family - your mother and your son. You need to drop the stupid crap like VBJ. You need to learn to control your behaviors and not buy into games on impulse because you feel that playing that "low" is beneath you or don't feel like waiting for an empty seat.

      The hand you describe sucks. You shouldn't have been in the game in the first place, so that's what they call poetic justice. You get no sympathy from me because you should have never been involved. Impulse control buddy, impulse control!

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    4. Oh, one more comment about turning $20 into $1000. Have your read my old blog challenge on AVP? I started with $0, and 43000 FTP points. I turned that into a bit over $1700 in my spare time over a period of 4 months. Not a way to make a living, but it was a fun challenge, and proves that with discipline, you can grind up your BR from small tournys.

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    5. I recently ran up $20 to $1650....cashed out $1200 and donked the rest off. Had a tourney score for almost $1200 (20K guarantee ...I think I finished 5th)....then donked around the Bovada casino with it and hit a nice bonus round for $400 ish.

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    1. sounds like reality is knocking on yr door

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    2. I told you not to say never.

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  6. Tony, 3 weeks ago I played an $8.80 super satty, won a ticket into a satty for a $2000 live tourney package. Does that count?

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  7. Your "wins" mean nothing as you are incapable of consistently winning and supporting yourself FROM your winnings. I don't consider myself a professional poker player, not by a long shot. I usually deposit $25-$50 at a time to sink off in micro stakes when bored. I have run my mini deposits into over $1,000 multiple times. Not to say its easy, but I'm a basic player (with far more developed strategy and game comprehension than yourself, simply because I actively work on improvement and track my hands/statistics and take advantage of coaching opportunities) and even a borderline average player, mixed with a little luck boxing, and you'll get there from time to time. So tread lightly before you declare yourself king of online poker. You have, as evidenced by your punting all your winnings from last night, no self control whatsoever.

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  8. But did u win the tourny itself? otherwise u get nothing

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    1. Oh, sorry I didn't finish typing my post, was waiting in line for the doctor. Yes, I won that tourny. Otherwise there would be no point making that post.

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  9. you can be such a pompous douchebag! how about 3 years ago I never deposited on hero poker(merge skin) played a couple freerolls(2) won, worked it up,kept a balance of $300 transferred it over to carbon play about 10-15 mtt's a monthhave a roi of about+65% have cashed out in those 3 years about 4x your current roll(basically playing for fun on fri/sat nights..not that its a big deal but I just want to show you that your 12 year old bravado is full of shit...you make it so easy for people to dislike/root against you

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  10. Hey Tony, your friend Dustin with the green A's cap from Commerce. Congrats on your tournament score on Bovada. Listen to the people that care about you and understand this game well. Play within your means and focus on games you can beat. Slow and steady. Stay away from the machines. Don't play when you're tired or frustrated. Find a hobby or read poker books when you're not feeling your best. Find techniques that work for you to reduce/eliminate tilt (i.e. breaks, breathing deep, meditation, stretching, etc.). Not sure if you recall my Bovada story, but I turned $9 into over $2,500 in one weekend with my biggest tournament score being $600. During that weekend, I never played a tournament over $55 and built my roll playing some heads up and mostly 6 max NL. Starting with .05/.10 NL and gradually stepping up the stakes to $1/$2 NL. Stay focused. You can print money on Bovada if you avoid tilt and practice proper game selection. Keep up the good work.

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    1. im at $0 on bovada now, just waking up. can i have ur email adddress?

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    2. So, when you said never having to deposit on Bovada again, you really meant 36 hours?

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    3. no what i mean is i wouldnt have had to had i done a better job of managing the money

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    4. Tony says..."no what i mean is i wouldnt have had to had i done a better job of managing the money"

      No, I don't think you meant that at all when you made the statement. You just won 2 tournys back to back, you were feeling cocky, when you said NEVER, I think you meant never ever. Now, after you have lost all the money and a subsequent deposit, only now are you thinking if only you could have done a better job of managing the money.

      We have seen it all before Tony. I made a comment on RTP when you made that comment 2 days ago, I said "Where have we heard this before?". Well, history repeats itself once again.

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    5. Sent my email to you via facebook message

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  11. I finally called Vince tonight, and he says for somewhere between $400-500 a month he can let me have my own room, receive mail, and i can pay it weekly of $125 a week if i like. But he dont want too many people there at once, so it wont be available til his other roommates move out. Jim is about $1100 behind on his rent. meaning if i moved in now for $10 a day, id still be sleeping on the floor.

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  12. Living with Vince is probably your best option at the moment. You can trust him and is gotta be better than staying at a weekly. Factoring the money you would save on transportation and not being in or around machines everyday it sounds like a good deal especially if you get your own room

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    1. well the deal is contigent on if his roommates move out, really not too thrilled about not having a room at all and sleeping on the floor.

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  13. "Yeah id been doing quite well in tournys on Bovada, (turned an original $20 deposit into over $1000) no one else here couldve done that,"

    OK. I'm sorry. I didn't read anymore of this post after this. But I feel the need to comment. As long as we're comparing wee-peens, I turned $0 into a $10,000 WSOP Main Event seat. Fuck with that.

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    1. But Stump, dont u wish now u'd have got $10k cash than a main event seat? ud be set for life now and wouldnt need to ever do heavy labor again.

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    2. 10k set 4 life? lmao.tony u r so funny.

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    3. Wait - $10,000 is all you need to be set for life? Does this "life" including living in a box and eating soup every meal?

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    4. LOL!!! $10k is HARDLY set for life.

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    5. well for me it is--but thats because i know how to manage money and not spend it foolishly. i shouldve never been broke when i had over 10k and if i ever get it again, ill never go broke.

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    6. Tony,
      Stop... just stop. I want to show you how asinine your last statement truly is. You're about to get a room at your buddy's place for $400 / month. If you rent that room for 12 months, your cost will be $4800 / year. Without considering eating food on a daily basis, within 2 years 1 month, you'll be out of money from rent alone!

      How do you figure that $10k will make you life rich? Even with your lifestyle, $10k is not a great amount. I suspect, given your history of repeating your missteps, if you had $10k today, you'd have $8k tomorrow and by year end, you'd be back to square one. Perhaps I give you too much credit; the money would probably run out long before year end.

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    7. You may not spend money foolishly, but you definitely gamble it foolishly.

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    8. Bullshit. At one point you had over $15,000 and yet now u broke. What happened to you being set for life moron? and TBC you know nothing about managing $. If you did you wouldn't play machines. The more you speak the more you sound like a fucking moron

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    9. ...wait.. What? You blew through 15K in no time. Every dime you win these days, you lose. You punt and waste money more than anyone I know. And you claim to know how to manage money? You should be set for life with the amount you've blown.

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    10. Tony you really need to stop saying NEVER.

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    11. Not spend it foolishly??? Like $800 cab rides from Reno? *facepalm*

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  14. Tony says..."well for me it is--but thats because i know how to manage money and not spend it foolishly. i shouldve never been broke when i had over 10k and if i ever get it again, ill never go broke."

    Oh boy, when have we heard this before?

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    1. That would be a two part answer. FIRST: how many times did he say that BEFORE the $800 cab ride? SECOND: how many times did he say that AFTER the $800 cab ride?

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  15. Tony, you had like 15k once, clearly you weren't set for life.

    I had an epiphany today....

    Tony, when was the last time you laughed? I mean seriously laughed really loud?

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  18. hey its paul from bovada plo8 tourney. if you wanna hit up commerce some time email me 707paradise@gmail.com

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  19. hey its paul from bovada plo8 tourney. hit me up at 707paradise@gmail.com. im down for some commerce some time, and could always use a local poker buddy.

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  20. any updates on what vinces is up too. DUI? roommates that r short on the rent?lmao

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  21. what is the O//U on how many deposits, tony makes on bovada in october? i think 8

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  22. Tony. I'm on Bovada right now. (417pm Jean time). Lets play OM 8/B. I will donate to you. I want to learn.

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