Saturday, November 2, 2013

Herbie and me

Playing a very small amount of PLO on UP now that ive finally woken up, (when i got home last night was too tired to make any posts) and without a smart phone anymore, im limited to where i can make posts when im out. And the golden nugget or LVH or the stratosphere (places i went, some with Herbie)--arent ones of them.

Most of u will think im doing ok, because im holding onto $2624. I dont think im doing ok, because in each of the last 2 days, i had it up to over $2700, and at one point last nite was closer to $2800 when i was briefly up $71 in the stud game at the LVH. Herbie (and Mark) kept thinking i should check it out, so i did, and i was surprised to see it still going that late at night, although quite shorthanded, in fact me and the final remaining player played HU for quite a well, and Luis was anxious to see us end it so he could start the $1-3 NL game, several were waiting around for it, and Luis needed a dealer. i was too stubborn to quit because id went from being up to $171 off my $100 buyin to having somewhat less than $100, and the one guy i was playing against wasnt that good, and he was down to $1.50 once, and then had came back to about $50 or so. eventually the game broke, and i had $94 of the $100 left when he finally busted again.

one good oldtimer grinder from Reno sat in the game, (the $1-3) and a few asians, me and Herbie. the young guys lost, a loose player lost who was also young, and eventually it got down to me Herbie and the grinder. i was still up $4 in the NL off my $60 buyin. Herbie quit, and then the game broke.

we walked thru the back parking lot of riv up to the strip to take the bus, and i learned about a new advantage play machine that shows a clock on it, and i called the strat found out the game was still going, and he stayed on the bus downtown. turned out i shouldve done the same thing, i destroyed the nights profit at the strat, and when i finally left the stratosphere, didnt see the bus on the other side of the road immediately, but did see a bus same side of road, so i rode back to circus, played VBJ slots of fun, recovered about $20, then rode the bus home.

Originally bought in $50 at the strat, lots of deepstacks on the table, and 2 of the players were really bad. one of them lost the whole $400 he had in front of him, and a young guy whod turned 21 also lost. i lost too, the original $50 buyin that id had up to $100 when i had TJ diamonds on a board of 793 and 2 diamonds. loose guy bets $35 after 3 of us check, i shove, hoping for a fold, but with so many outs if i get called. loose guy called after the others folded, with NOTHING but a8, a hand i was hoping he could fold. and i blanked.

rebought $54 lost it, and then rebought the other $120, but shortly thereafter the game broke and i had $118 of it. another hand i shouldve won, but didnt i had TT, overpair to the board, and got beat by a runner runner flush. that was a big pot, there were 6 of us allin preflop for my $30-50 i had left. and my hand was good til the end. the guy who won that scooped a huge pot off the others with bigger stacks. he won with 58 diamonds.

also it seems ive discovered that casino fandango in carson city has the dealers angels machine but i wont believe it for sure til i see it, but the guy from the reno area swears its in there and that hes played it. But i have to wait til after my hearing before i can go either there or Phoenix or Albuquerque. Maybe even WA.

Stayed off of VP machines for a few days, maybe thats helping me not have big losses. also been staying away from limit games, not counting stud. Havent even played a lot online lately, and still have $689 of the $700 i put on UP for safekeeping. and $151 on bovada.

Herbie left the elcortez and came and got me at the nugget, then he gave me a spare bus pass and bought me a pop both of which was extremely nice and entirely unexpected. although id probably ended up way better off had i just stayed in the game at the nugget. there were some good oldtimers in that stud game. he was under the mistaken assumption hours for the freeroll count on saturday, they dont.

I dont remember any HH to post except a stud hand that no one will care about. and i need to get offline now and go to work today.

18 comments:

  1. Tony says..."in fact me and the final remaining player played HU for quite a well, and Luis was anxious to see us end it so he could start the $1-3 NL game, several were waiting around for it, and Luis needed a dealer. i was too stubborn to quit because id went from being up to $171 off my $100 buyin to having somewhat less than $100, and the one guy i was playing against wasnt that good, and he was down to $1.50 once, and then had came back to about $50 or so. eventually the game broke, and i had $94 of the $100 left when he finally busted again."

    Well, that was smart! All his money and some of yours went to the rake. Good job.

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    1. that is how the PROS do it ,sir.whether somewhere in europe or in vegas. LMAO.

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  2. they were taking almost nothing for the rake but $1-2 a pot because theres no jackpot. and thats only if the pot gets high enough of course. the rake got most of its money from when there were more players earlier.

    anyway im home in bed early tonight, pissed off, and still not heard anything from SI but voicemails. i lost about $400, spent some money too, wasted $30 on VP, but thanks to Herbies ticket, i recovered $50 from the match play. good thing it didnt lose too, i took his advice and used it for craps instead of BJ. Sitting in bed using whats left of my $151 on Bovada, got about $100 of it.

    i was on my 3rd buyin in the NL at the nugget, and now im down to $2200. first buyin $100, 2nd buyin $130, and third buyin $200 before id lost the 2nd buyin. had about $250 left of the $430 i had on me in cash total. id been bored as fuck and not getting anything remotely resembling a playable hand and the table had too much preflop raising to loosen up. a new guy made it $22 his first hand, and tried running over the table without legit hands, and i looked down a few hands later, saw how he was playing, was sick of being stuck and i limped with 66, fearing he would raise. sure enough he raised his straddle, to $24 and i went $100 out of frustration. no one but him calls, i hoped he wouldnt, and i knew he would shove the flop no matter what being first to act, i had him slightly covered with about $140 behind, not sure. flop comes 478 with 2 spades, sure enough he shoves, i call, and he rivers me with his K9 spades when Q spades comes. hed been trying to bully the whole table off pots the whole 10-20 hands hed been playing.

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    1. Big surprise here. Don't even ask me why I waste my time texting you.

      lightning: "Keep making good decisions and don't donk off a big chunk of money foolishly."

      Tony: "Re: Stuck over $100 already"

      And of course, to nobody's surprise, what happened soon afterwards?

      "id been bored as fuck"
      "was sick of being stuck ..."
      "now im down to $2200."

      Wash, rinse, repeat.

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    2. but that money was all lost on poker, not machines. the $30 wasnt lost on the machine til later, after id quit the game and first won back $50 from Herbies matchplay. went home with 61$

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  3. Tony that's the exact same bad line you took at the V we talked about. You should not ever limp 3 bet people live it's really weak and always looks exactly like what it is a small pair. If you want to 3 bet go 2.2x their raise not 4x with less than a half a pot sized bet behind I really hate your bet sizes. Getting frustrated is just playing bad going on tilt should never happen if you want to play for a living.

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    1. I think he had over half a pot bet left on the flop. Curious why you think a limp 3 bet in a live game makes the hand look really weak? Most people (especially someone who is considered tight) limp 3-bet in EP with AA/KK/AK, not a small pair. May be it is the size of the raise that you think give away the strength of the hand? As usual Tony is light on the details, so we don't know if he limped with other limpers in front, or was he the first to limp in early position. We also don't know if anyone called the manaic's raise to $24.

      If there were one or two limpers that called the $24 raise, then a 3-bet squeeze to $100 is not a bad move. Most of the time you go heads up against the maniac with dead money in the pot, and the bet size commits you to the pot, which is also not a bad thing against a maniac. This is a high variance play though, and Tony's BR and reasoning were both wrong to make this move.

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    2. You think a squeeze to $100 against a maniac is a good play with 66?

      this guy is calling 100% of the time...and shoving any pair or draw on the flop

      and you have 66

      That was a horrible spot IMO....you have max 51% equity assuming the maniac has two cards over a 6....and you are getting even money if there were no limpers....now....AK,AQ...99+....yeah...i can see it...but 66..you are just asking to get stacked

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    3. Did you read what I actually wrote? I said if there were one or two callers to $24, then a squeeze is not a bad play, because of the dead money. In that case, you are basically committed to play for stack, and have 50% or better equity in the dead money and against maniac's range. Like I said, this is a high variance play that is not suitable for Tony's BR, or his hand reading ability.

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    4. there werent any callers though, and i dont remember the hand Nick refers to at the V. Tomorrow ill be seeing Turd Ferguson at the V, (i think). i didnt know the maniac would have 2 overs, he couldve easily had only 1 over, or maybe even folded. had i known both of those to not be the way i hoped, id not made the play. Probably wouldnt have made the play had i not stuck and tired either.

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  4. Limp 3 betting is bad against a Argo players straddle. First you have position so why not just raise to get the pot head up and isolate in position. Second when you just flat you invite a limp parade into the pot and encourage the straddles to play correct and just check. Third when the straddles does raise your 3 bet looks like a weak hand. If it was strong you would have raised by wanting to play multiway it's either a small pair or a suited ace x hand. The 4 x of the straddle raise says I have a small pair, he would never bet that much with a good hand that he can't have. So he is setting the other guy up to make a perfect stop and go sizing because he has $140 behind on a pot over $200. So any hand with around 33% equity after the flop has to call. The simpler explanation is that he did the exact same thing at the V a couple months ago and after talking about it for 15 minutes he agreed that the limp 3 bet is a bad play for all the reasons I just covered.

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    1. Nick:

      I understand what you're saying, but like PD above, I more typically see that play, particularly with older players or super nits (and I think Tony would fall into both groups), with top 4 hands. They play to get the agro straddle to raise for them and then overbet out of fear.

      What your saying does make sense for small pairs.

      Perhaps you're referring more to good players. Perhaps better players are doing that with small pairs. I try to sit with tourists as much as possible, and I do see that move more with big holdings.

      s.i.

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  5. Paid Vince up, bought a little food, and had a small win in the $1-2 NL game at tx station, after losing in the $2-6 earlier. am still waiting on my $388 withdrawal from UP. and ive got only $21 left on bovada. Thank God i still have a lot more than that left on UP. and i was disappointed they wouldnt start the omaha hi game at TX tonight, not even with 8 names on it.

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  6. how is the microwave and pants situation?

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  7. 28 degrees and no snow . fucking bullshit

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  8. Running Aces is pretty much nowhereville. The nearest hotel is 3 miles. Forest Lake is the nearest town, it is 5 miles. There is one bus, an express running from St Paul, runs in the morning and the afternoon during rush hour only. It is a harness racing track, it also has simulcast racing. There are no machines. There are poker and table games only. You can turn the points into cash. Transportation and housing would be your major problems, as always.

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    1. Once the ice forms on the nearby lakes and gets thick enough for the popular sport of ice-fishing there will be hundreds of small shanties on the lakes called of all things: ice-houses fish-houses. Best part is that ice-fishing technically runs 24 hours a day and it is not uncommon for these 8x8 (most common size) units to have a bunk in them and the line down the hole is attached to a bell to wake the icefisherman if a fish hits his bait while sleeping. If one of these units was a ten minute walk from RunningAces then Tony would just need to forage for enough firewood on a daily basis (for the wood-store heat) to live in his fish-house from early December through mid-february (when ice-houses are no longer allowed on lakes overnight). Plenty of angles to take on winter low budget accomodations in Minnesota in the winter....

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