Monday, March 31, 2014

highest roll in years

Sorry ive been neglecting this blog a bit lately--its just that ive been playing a lot more live poker--and been not coming home til quite tired--and then wanting to sleep right away instead of update. Also, not much has happened the last few days now that most of my out of town friends left vegas. The only real thing that matters and is happening--is that i keep winning, and why im winning, i dont know if the games are getting softer--or if im just on a good run. also, i think i should start playing tournys a lot more. Donkeytax is willing to partially stake me in some of the survivor events at the Venetian, and i won over $300 off his cash stake. (of which i got $150) But in the last 5 omaha tournies ive played live, ive cashed or won outright in 4.

also about this tooth, i dont know whats going on with it. its been less sore lately--but ive not been eating ANY sugar at all, nor anything with ice in it, and brushing and rinsing it regularly. also i did the only thing u can do when u need ur money for more important things like food and rent and bus fares instead of medical expenses--i prayed to Jesus, and asked him to heal the tooth, and to cleanse out any infections that mightve been there--but i dont think any were. Although the power to heal is rarely used since God isnt a big Santa Claus--its still there, and is comforting to know that. it was used on me once as a child, when a dr wasnt available, and it worked. and i still think i should get over my fears and see one as soon as possible, there is something wrong in there--but i asked God for a month or so of time--to get more money together first and to find the RIGHT dentist and Dr. having never had a regular medical dr, i dont know how to go about making an appt and then seeing one at his private office, at a set time, without the long waits that annoy me greatly at the places people go to for emergencies such as UMC thats filled with homeless people for things that arent really emergencies, but they dont know where else to go.

researching online told me about a clinic with a flat $22 fee for an office visit--but it seems that clinic is no longer in business. id still like to find a place u can go for under $50 (without needing insurance and without having to verify income). also im curious about the prices u think a dentist would charge for removing 1 wisdom tooth, should be a lot less than removing 4. i find it odd for about 2 days it was paining me quite a few times but then been quiet and ive not needed any advil the last 3 days.

and i also got a big fear that my $4549 which i have at the time of this post (after just turning a quick $115 profit earlier tonight) might go to waste on VBJ machines that arent as good as the ones in Jean. either ones with higher minimums (screwing up my bet spreads) or ones with worse rules. while playing at the Palazzo about 7am, i found myself playing as high as 3 bets of $33 one hand, at least that hand won. ended up making $158 on the VBJ there last night, then proceeded to lose $100 of it in the $1-2 NL at the V because by then i was tired. the last hand i had TT and a guy makes it $11, a guy called, and with only $50 left i felt obligated to shove he called with AK and hit the A on the turn. i felt it was the right play but should i have folded because of the possibility i was dominated by a higher pair? or would that be too weak? is it ok to shove knowing ill never be better than 54-46 preflop at best?

and i just won $10 on bovada while updating this blog. got about $67 there left. But to avoid losing the $4500 back on games i shouldnt play, what about taking a road trip? to a place like Reno (where Benny will guarantee me $50 cash a day without risking any money) or california where i wont be around any machines because fucking Cutter wont say where they are, to Phoenix wheres theres good rooms ive not been to in 15 yrs, or to Columbus where theres good games and i can have Ray to drive me all over between cinti and MI. and of course i always like to pick places im right by the cardroom or living at the casino or else im an easy bus ride.

still looking forward to seattle irishs trip report too

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    Post by sevencard2003 on Mar 14, 2014 at 2:00pm
    now is the time to confess ur sins to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and to get your life right with God. no more engaging in sin and doing things that would shame the name of Jesus Christ. no more of me wasting money on VBJ--or acting inappropriately at the poker tables.

    Tony do you remember this post you made less than 3 weeks ago. NO MORE WASTING MONEY ON VBJ. What happened to your prays to your God to help you stay away from the VBJ machines. Obviously he is not listening to you anymore. You are too much of a hypocrite. Do you really think he is going to fix your fucking tooth, when you can't even stay away from from a vbj machine after you promised him you would?

    I think you better change Gods and start praying to Allah that you don't blow up again and have another massive meltdown this time at the Palazzo, when your old friend martingale lets you down again like he has done every fucking time you play the machines. Getting bannned from the Palazzo and the Venetian would just about be the final nail in your coffin as far as gambling venues go in Las Vegas.

    For crying out loud Tony, you are only a couple of hundred dollars away from $5000, don't fucking blow it. Stick to poker, grind away., accept small loses at the poker tables. Don't chase them and for fuck's sake, once and for all, STAY AWAY FROM THE VBJ MACHINES.

    Koala

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    1. congrats on the recent wins and I am glad your tooth is not hurting right now. get it taken care of though or it will come back to "bite" you. shoving the TT is fine there unless you know the original raiser is very tight and rarely opens preflop and will never fold.

      PS. what Koala just said!!

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    2. Koala--its not so much that playing the machine in and of itself is a bad thing--its still beatable if played correctly over a long enough period of time. a bad thing is if u bet more than u should--and refuse to quit when stuck too much. thats whats bad--a lack of discipline and self control.

      in other news--donkeytax says my poker game has really grown, and that i play with much more discipline and a lot better than 2 years ago when he last watched me play. otherwise he wouldnt be staking me

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  2. Hi Tony,

    I think yoiu should take a trip to Reno. You have a friend there, Benny, who WANTS you to be there. Wouldn't it be nice to have that bit of support? You have a decent roll and Benny says there's plenty of poker in Reno.

    I think you should just call a local dentist and ask them how much for a cleaning and evaluation, and then go do it.

    You know how I feel about the fucking vbj machines, right?

    xoxo

    Josie

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  3. why not go over the border and get your teeth fixed cheap, last time i was in laughlin all the old folks at the table was talking how cheap it is and go down there all the time. worth the time i guess

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    1. LOL. What if TBC gets STUCK down there? His semblance to Luis Guzman won't get him out of this mess.

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  4. If you do decide to go to Cali, there's a great dentist in Burbank. He isn't cheap but definitely cheaper than a bad night at VBJ and he has really up to date equipment. Also, have you considered changing your sleeping hours so that you CAN take advantage of the fact that people want to stake you in tourneys? I mean if a bunch of people pull together $1500 to stake you in a WSOP event, are you going to say "sorry, I'm asleep at that time"?

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  5. Congrats on you roll TBC...keep playing solid poker and stay off dem bad bad machines...Tony winning at poker is the easiest its ever been so keep grinding.

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  6. Tony:

    Here's your trip report:

    Driving up to Reno was actually enjoyable. There is a whole lot of nothin' between here and Reno - some of those towns are just shacks after shack after mobile home, all boarded up by the side of the highway. Brought to mind some of the Stephen King stuff I used to read.

    I was up there with my brother and two of my best friends, so I knew we would have a great time. All four of us play poker. We stayed at The Nugget, which ended up only being $140 each for 4 nights, with nice rooms. Never actually played poker at The Nugget, as the room never had a NL game going, only 2/4 and 3/6.

    First night was just late dinner and catch up. Thursday, we all played the daily poker tournament at The Peppermill; very nice room (free soda machine, bottled water in the fridge, and free soup everyday - you would like those parts, Tony) with comfortable chairs and competent dealers. I really only play tournaments when I get together with these guys (they live in WA state), and I played this tournament about as poorly as I could have played it. Just tentative, reactive, passive, loosing play on my part. I was nervous and didn't play a single had as I should have. Fortunately, the tourney was only a $55 run and it allowed me to work the bugs out. Busted pretty early, obviously. My brother made the final table and cashed 6th (8 paid). I played cash after busting, a game much more in my wheelhouse. Played for about 3 hours, waiting on my bro - the tables weren't very strong, in my opinion. All locals, but really only 3 who were going to make moves, the rest played face up - if they bet big, they had strong pair or better, if they bet small, they only had a piece of the board. Made the game relatively easy. I was still playing a little tentative, and finished up $145.

    We ended up going to Blind Onion Pizza, which the other three liked a lot. I think Metro, here in Vegas, is much better. Goofed off the rest of the night.

    Played cash for most of Friday, with some breaks for meals and goof off time - we were watching most of the NCAA games, so lots of trips to the sports book. I don't bet sports, but the others did. I did fill out a money bracket at work and it looks like I'm guarenteed top 3, with possible 2nd if Florida wins, so that's nice. I finished 3rd last year for about $180.00. All of the cash play was at Peppermill - same play, but some more tourists, as it was the start of the weekend. Ended up +285.00 for the day. A few bad(ish) beats, but I'm sure I sucked out a couple times too.

    Saturday was more hoops, but also some cash play at the Atlantis. They had some sort of poker tournament series going on (bigger buyins than I'm comfortable with), so table selection became critical. I was playing at one table with one of my friends and it was a PERFECT table for about 2.5 hours - 2 locals, 5 tourists, easy play, lots of laughter and chatter, showing hands, drinks flowing, and me up about $250. Within 30 minutes, the folks busting were replaced by good/very good players, and soon had 4 players who were at least as good as me. I mentioned the change to my buddy, but the money really isn't a factor for him and he likes the action, so he stayed and I tried out another table (also a tough one), so ended up sitting out after about an hour, still up $250. We had dinner at a place my brother loves - I'm not sure what it's called, but it's an absolute dive, famous for the "Awful-awful burger". The burger was huge. I didn't order it, but the 3 others did and they enjoyed it. Would have been way too much food for me. If you like "man-vs-food" type meals, this is the place for you.

    part 2 below:

    s.i.

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  7. part 2:

    Sunday, we played the Peppermill tournament again, and this time I was MUCH more comfortable. I typically do well in tournaments, but I just don't enjoy them as much as cash games. My opinion was that the field wasn't very tough. Just seemed like most of the people playing weren't looking for spots to feel (a few were) and didn't understand when the tournament shifted to shove-mode and were still trying to put out small bets and generally not recognizing how to adjust to the increase in blinds/antes realtive to stack size. I was fortunate in that no one had monsters when I was stealing, but I felt like I was picking good spots. I was card dead for almost the entire tournament, but still made the final table (top 9 paid, but we voted to pay bubble, so everyone got paid). I think there were about 85 entries. I was around 4th in chips and had a little room to play, but not much. My brother also made the final table, which was fun. All four of us had entered. I'll have more about this later, as I'm guessing some of you would disagree with our soft-play rule for the four of us. I still wasn't getting many great hands, but was able to steal enough to keep up with the blinds. We got down to 5 and both my brother and I were still in, with my brother to my left. There was one goofy play at this stage: the short stack to my right pushed, making it about 1/8 of my stack to call from the small blind. I had Q/8 suited, called, hoping my brother (big blind) would also call and we would then check down to try to bust him. Flop was 10/8/2. I checked, my brother, who only had about a 1/2 pot bet left, moved all in. The agreement the four of us had made at the beginning of this trip was to soft play each other when head's up(I welcome comments on this) and only bet "monsters", with "monsters" being defined as trips+. Now, my brother is VERY competitive, and I had a feeling he was trying to steal here, despite our agreement. I made the call, thinking that I was either catching him screwing with me or at worst case end up giving his stack a little boost even if I was wrong. He had K2, for bottom pair. I laughed and gave him "the look" when he turned his cards over. It ended up being a positive thing, as the short stack turned over A8, so he was actually ahead for the big pot. My bro rivered a 2 for the scoop and knockout, so we were down to 4, with one big stack and three mediums. My brother got knocked out in 4th, so it was down to 3, and the interesting thing about this tourney was that top 2 got $300 buyins to the Sunday tourney. I didn't really know how to feel about this, as we were all leaving Sunday and I wasn't certain I could sell it. However, it ended up moot as I busted 3rd. Made one stupid play where I went to steal with J/9 and big stack (not great player, but rarely had to show a hand - perhaps he was better than I thought - but he always seemed to have very strong hands when he had to show - seemed like he was getting hit with deck). I folded, but in retrospect, I was pot committed and should have called even while I was certainly behind. The blinds were so high that my fold didn't give me any room for a move and didn't give me enough to shove with a big enough stack to be discouraging. That one cost me, as my next shove didn't cost too much more for the blinds so I got 2 calls and one of them hit. Still, I felt I played about as well as my talent level would allow. Making only one or two mistakes is about the top of my tournament range, to be honest. I got $385, tipped out 40. Dinner was on me (tip was on my brother), and we were all in the mood for prime rib. Got a recommendation to eat at "This Grill at Quail Run" and it had strong reservations on Yelp, so off we went. It was good. I wouldn't go again, but it was good. Ended up being about $150ish, so I would try somewhere else next time.

    part 3 below

    s.i.

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  8. part 3:

    Sunday I picked breakfast and had read some really good Yelp reviews about Pegs (something) Ham and Eggs. I don't remember the exact name, but this place was FANTASTIC! I love breakfast, and this place was called "best breakfast place in the country" by Esquire. It really was fantastic - nothing fancy at all, but outstanding food at very reasonable prices. I was impressed and will be back everytime I'm in Reno. Can't rave enough.

    Overall - Both Atlantis and Peppermill had very nice rooms. Always seemed to have games going (Peppermill had PLO going everytime I was there - was also the larger of the rooms and Tony would like the free soup!). Play was solid. I find worse tourist play here in Vegas, but it was easy to spot the good players and the regulars didn't seem to make many moves. Play could have been easier than usual due to the hoops going on, but I would think weekend play would be somewhat similar.

    As to the soft play rule - it was only when heads up, and all three of my buddies violated it at some point! I was the only one who didn't break the rule, so I was designated "KING" of our group and get to make some random stupid rule when we go next year. I know I've read some posts condemning soft play, and there were a few times where it did kind of screw up table play (lots of limps in front, or maybe small raises, one of us raises fairly big, all fold except for another one of us, effectively ensuring one of the four of us get all the dead money and are then checking down unless we hit trips +). It wasn't ever our intention to steal dead money or affect table play, but I know it did a couple times. No one ever said anything or even raised an eye that I saw. I am curious about people's thoughts on this. I'm pretty sure we'll keep doing it and continue rationalizing it, regardless. It's one trip a year.

    So, Tony - I think you could do well in Reno. Not too much different from Vegas. Seemed to be cheaper, including meals. The demons of machine play will still be there. Not sure it's any better for you than Vegas, but I don't think it would be worse.

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    1. very nice trip report, thanks for being honest with us about the way u cheat and collude while at the tables. the one thing that bothers me about reno is Bennys offer wont be good long, (that will end quickly that promo) and the last time i was in reno i lost way too much on VP because no VBJ was available and a lot of times the poker going wasnt going and thats why i played.) would need a lot of discipline. wish ud have stopped off in minden on the way, thats another game no one goes to id really like to learn about firsthand.

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    2. Tony:

      You're welcome. I believe it's important to be honest about one's cheating and colluding. Honesty....above all else!

      s.i.

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    3. I think Jesus would forgive s.i. for his cheating and colluding ways . . . Assuming he is willing to repent before the rapture, of course.

      s.i. Great read! Sound like an awesome trip.

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    4. No repentance from me, P3. ;-)

      I'm slightly ambivalent about the colluding. I recognize it did give us a distinct edge in a few select hands, as described above. I balance that with knowing my brother and two friends aren't particularly serious poker players (or particularly good players, although all 3 are decent) and they would be angry if one of them knocked the other out - it would detract from their enjoyment and from the annual trip.

      It's going to continue - so fair warning to those of you who find yourself at our table in a tourney!

      s.i.

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  9. Use some of that money to get one of dem whores who will kiss on the lips.

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  10. Vince and i went to the grocery store, and hes doing my laundry for the money i paid him. i cant use my walmart debit card anymore because i need to update my address over the phone, tried to put cash on it and got refused. also because i have over $4000 in the bank, im no longer getting charged a $14 monthly fee from my bank. i think ill just get a new greendot mastercard/visa somewhere, most people use one of those, at least on seals. new roll $4852

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  11. Isa 58:8.............your light shall break forth like the morning, your healing shall spring forth speedily, and your righteousness shall go before you; the glory of the Lord shall be your rear guard.

    What is more constructive
    A. Bible Study
    B. VP or VBJ or Constant gambling with a need to flourish bank roll being above a need for faith.

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    1. Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

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    2. this verse shows me Ray is quite sincere in his faith, and is a lot better Christian than i am. my priorities arent in the right place--all i can think of is that im getting old, and need to stockpile money to survive the coming bad luck ill have. and i hope God will forgive Koala too

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    3. Forgive me for what Tony? You are the one that is the hypocrite and a liar, not me.

      I am currently going through chemotherapy again after having part of my right lung removed because it had a tumour in it. Which is a damn sight bigger problem than you have at the moment. I don't get down on my knees every night and try and make deals with my God that if he cures me I will repent and all the rest of the bullshit that goes with it.

      The God I know doesn't work in that way. The God I know should be loved and followed unconditionally. Although I believe in God, I am a lapsed follower of my God through my own choosing. It is not in my nature to try and make deals with him, because that is not proof of true love for my God. That is me trying to use of him to cure my illness. I don't live like that.

      You on the other hand talk about raptures and all that other crap and sprout sciptures, and what you should be doing to make sure that when you get to heaven your 73 virgins will be waiting for you with panties off and legs spread, and waiting to kiss you opn the lips. The problem with your style of following your God is that you only pray to him when you want something to benefit you, or to drag you out of your own self made problems. The rest of the time you live in a constant state of sin breaking everyone of the Ten Commandments over and over. That is why you will never go to heaven as a follower of Jesus Christ, your repentance is done only to suit yourself, and not for the love of Jesus.

      So you might as well start following Allah and hop in line for your 73 virgins.

      PS Check under their Burkas first, if they haven't dropped their knickers when you get there. The last lot of terrorists in Syria were men disguised as women wearing burkas.

      Koala

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  12. hung out with docglock for a while tonight, and managed to claim my phone id left at the desk in the poker room at the V this morning by mistake. bought me a greendot visa for the first time in my life too, wish i didnt have to wait for one with my name on it. am happy to report i just won a HUGE triple up on bovada in the $1-2 PLO8 game, new balance on bovada is now $227

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    1. Tony keep grinding away. Everyone told you that March Madness is a great time to play poker and it looks like it has worked out for you for the most part. Next week is one of the biggest conventions of the year in Vegas. The convention is at Las Vegas Convention Center and you will have a lot of tourists in town for work, who are looking to blow off some cash at the poker tables. I have visited before during the NAB convention and it has always been immensely profitable.

      MIV

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  13. Any chance of you filing a tax return this year sport?

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    1. Seriously, not this again. I mean, regardless whether Tony is legally obligated to file a return (and I have no idea if he is), who gives a fuck? Really, does the U.S. Gov need an extra $300 from Tony Bigcharles? If YOU were in Hero's shoes, would YOU file a return? The answer is "No," you would not. I mean, for all of Tony's faults (and, I believe we can all agree he has more than most), his failure to file taxes seems like one we can let slide.

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    2. I am 100% with P3 on this one (Tony do not file a tax return). If he files a tax return it increases his chance of going broke. If he goes broke, he'll apply for government assistance and probably be on it for the rest of his life. In short, he is saving the government money by trying to survive on his own. Tony, I applaud you for trying to live without government assistance even though you probably could get it.

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  14. S.I.:

    You can read in excruciating detail my thoughts on collusion/soft-playing at cheating in several blog posts here:

    http://pokergrump.blogspot.com/search/label/collusion

    But to sum it up:

    * You are a cheater.

    * You are no better than people who dump chips, or steal chips from another player's stack, or take chips off the table to add to their stack in another day's tournament.

    * If I were about to enter a tournament in which you were playing, I'd show your confession to the room manager and ask to have you excluded from the game. IMHO, you should not be allowed to play poker in any casino--cash games or tournaments, whether or not your special co-cheater friends are present--because somebody who, like you, is willing to cheat while knowing it is cheating just cannot be trusted.

    * That you admit it is cheating and yet say you will go on doing it anyway shows what kind of person you are at heart.

    * I regret that I have, prior to now, misjudged you as a basically decent person.

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    1. I am inclined to give Seattle Irish a pass on this once a year event and likewise in other circumstances would trust him to be entirely honest in a poker game. FWIW...

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    2. This post has to be a joke, right? If not, damn, Grump, you need to take recreational poker a bit less seriously.

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    3. i must say that i support Grumps position, and in other news, i recovered close to $280 tonight, along with getting Andys reimbursement. im back to over $4675 again. i will admit, that about $200 of tonights winnings did come from VBJ and the rest from $1-2 NL at the V. theres a lot of regs at the V, lots of the same faces every morning.

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    4. i must say that i support Grumps position, and in other news, i recovered close to $280 tonight, along with getting Andys reimbursement. im back to over $4675 again. i will admit, that about $200 of tonights winnings did come from VBJ and the rest from $1-2 NL at the V. theres a lot of regs at the V, lots of the same faces every morning.

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    5. What is Andy's reimbursement about?

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    6. P-cubed wtf does "recreational" poker mean? If you're playing for money in a public cardroom intending to cheat, you're a scumbag. Soft-playing reduces the chances one of the colluders will bust, thereby increasing the chances someone else will, thus is steals money from them. Is it okay in a cash game to swipe 4 red chips off an opponent's stack when they're in the bathroom because you've unilaterally decided you're playing "recreational" poker? I'm with Grump 100%.

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    7. Kat, I can see your point. I do think grump was sort of a dick to s.i. in his comment, however. If any one on these boards had proven himself to be a decent guy over the years, its s.i.

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    8. I agree that there should be no soft play in poker. Grump's rant was way over the top, however.

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    9. To be fair to Grump (a person and a player whom I admire), I did say I would welcome comments on the "soft play" in which we partake on our annual pilgrimage. I appreciate Grump taking the time to comment, and I'll give his comments some weight.

      I will take issue with Grumps assertion that I'm "...no better than people who dump chips, or steal chips from another player's stack, or take chips off the table to add to their stack in another day's tournament." Grump is an intelligent person, so I'm going to chalk up this comment to the heat of the moment or assume this is a particularly hot-button issue for him and he is unable to use the full range of his intellectual judgement here.

      Clearly, one would look at "cheating" along a continuum. Cheating is not a binary like pregnancy, but rather, to put it in TBC terms, like sin; there can be venial sin and there can be mortal sin. I think most players viewing the issue rationally would say that stealing chips off another person's stack while they're gone would fall further along the continuum towards "mortal sin", while what my buddies and I were doing (soft playing) would be a venial sin. Both in intention (we were never with the intention to provide an edge over other players, but rather to avoid knocking each other out) and in impact (almost exclusively, the impact on others was to be squeezed out of play for the limps), we were certainly in the "venial sin" area.

      As an example, a quick google (literally the first link I came to) on "soft play" provided this link:

      http://www.learn-texas-holdem.com/questions/what-is-soft-play.htm

      Along with this quote:

      Answer: Soft play is a really weak form of collusion, you aren't working with another player on the same team, but you play your hand differently against them than you would someone else...This is a really small rule, as you can see by no one mentioning it anywhere, so I wouldn't take it too seriously; in other words all the home game players, don't start calling "Soft Play! Penalty!" on each other."

      I do understand why soft play is frowned upon. And, as a purely recreational player, I understand why one would view this more seriously if it were their profession. I do think highly of Grump, Kit, and some of the other's that posted their disagreement with soft play, and I will consider that during future annual outings; to be honest, I do not think it will sway me, but my nature is to process new information over time and I do give more weight to information from those I respect. I will ask all of them to reconsider their dualistic moral judgments on this issue, but I understand where they're at.

      Thanks for your feedback, all!

      s.i.

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    10. P.S. - for those of you who haven't played with me or don't know me, I should clarify that, with the exclusion of this annual poker trip, I don't believe I have ever come close to cheating in a single poker game in which I've played as an adult.

      I'm the guy who asks the old guy to be more careful with his cards when he's giving me an unintentional peak ;-)

      s.i.

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    11. Anyone sitting down to play online is willingly sitting down to play against potential robots, colluding groups of players, soft play players, backdoor software scams, and who knows what else. If you play online, the last thing you should be worried about is a guy going out to Reno once a year with his buddies.

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    12. I'm well aware that some people don't know that soft-playing = colluding = cheating. When that is the case, I'm less condemnatory. However, SI says, "I'm pretty sure we'll keep doing it and continue rationalizing it, regardless." There is no need to rationalize something one doesn't think is wrong, so this is a frank admission. It's saying, "I know it's wrong, but we're going to do it anyway." I have no patience for such at attitude. Such people deserve all the scorn that we can heap on them.

      As Mike Caro says, "I have long-ago stated that poker cheaters should be boiled and eaten. If you think I’m not serious, you boil; I’ll eat.... We need to let unethical players know, in blunt terms, that we don’t tolerate any form of cheating, including partnerships big or small. It’s our game and we will defend it. The consequences of tolerating unethical poker are too great; the stakes are too high. Tell them that exactly. If that doesn’t work, it’s time to start boiling the water."

      Since SI has confessed to cheating, and to planning to continue to cheat at poker, I've got water, sticks, and matches. Just need to find a pot big enough.

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    13. Grump:

      I promise I'm not trying to pick a fight with you; if there's a modern day equivilant to "picking a fight with people who buy ink by the barrel", it's picking an internet fight with a blogger!

      That said, I did read your posts about soft play. The critique of Chad Brown/Vanessa Rouseo had the following quote: "Of course, there's cheating and then there's cheating. This obviously ranks well below, say, owning an online poker site and using insider access to look at opponents' cards while you play against them. But it is clearly a violation of the rules."

      I'm curious why you seem to have lost your willingness to see "cheating" along that same continuum and now insist that soft playing is the same as stealing someone's chips or taking chips from a stack to add to a later tourney. You once had an ability to move away from such dualism and that now seems lost.

      Frankly, I struggle to believe you are not able to see the rather large range of behavior that could reasonably be considered "cheating" and how that behavior, both in intent and impact varies substantially. The dictionary defines cheating as "conducting matters fraudulantly, especially for profit to oneself: to cheat at cards", and "to gain an unfair advantage over someone". The behavior in which I'm engaging clearly only hints at the very edge of either of those definitions. Your examples of stealing chips of someone's stack or adding to a later tourney stack don't hint one bit. To claim there is no difference is not honest or not thinking clearly, in my opinion.

      In the other link you posted, you also seemed to respond differently in both tone and content when it was Josie soft playing with someone. You closed your post suggesting the two of you could happily play together at a later date, as long as you played each other competitively. With me, you state I should be banned from all poker rooms across the country.

      I've only interacted with you a couple times in person, but I've read your posts for years. Your posts indicate someone who values consistency. I do understand that my lack of moral consistency here troubles you; I have tried to highlight some areas where I don't believe you are being consistent and other areas where I think you're refusing to look at the nuance of the issue and recognize that a continuum of "sin" exists here.

      I hope you'll mull it over.

      s.i.

      p.s. - what do you honestly think would happen if you and I were entered into a tournament and you pulled up my earlier post and showed it to the tournament director? I'm pretty confident in what would happen, but I'm curious as to how you think most poker room/tourney directors would respond.

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    14. One clarification here. Soft play isn't "frowned upon" it is against the rules. The reason it is against the rules is because it is equity theft. Stealing. In environments in which it can be adequately policed such as PokerStars you can get thrown off the site permanently for soft-playing.

      As to your p.s.... If I were the poker room manager I'd ban you from my room. Most will simply remind you soft playing is against the rules. One reason I am so uncompromising on this is that poker has been horribly wounded by so many scandals, both online and live, the past decade. In order to recover, those who run games need to convince honest players they are doing everything they can to protect them against cheats.

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    15. Settle down Grump, Grump have you ever broken the law or cheated?

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    16. I'm guessing this topic, much like that of tipping the dealer or "if someone consistently flashes their cards, is it ok to look", has exhausted itself.

      I appreciate those who chose to share their perspective on the topic of my soft play - clearly there are some people who hold very strong feelings on the issue.

      I will issue fair warning; I'm going to continue to soft play with my brother and three friends during our annual outing. These take place every year at some point during March Madness, usually on the 2nd week, although sometimes on the first. I'm guessing we'll be back in Reno, but Vegas, San Francisco, and Victoria have all been mentioned as possible locations for next year. If you're at a table with us during that time, and you see us head's up in a hand, you'll almost certainly see soft-play (also known to some as collusion, cheating, chip stealing, theft, bannable play, boilable offense, and one of the worst sins known to humankind). Keep your distance, if you value your virtue.

      In other news, congrats on your run, Tony. You have your roll up OVER $5,000.00. I know quite a bit of that has come from VBJ, so I do believe a significant hit is coming, accompanied by a "must leave Vegas IMMEDIATELY" post. I hope you can learn from the past and avoid that, Tony.

      s.i.

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    17. I disagree. I believe this thread still has utility. For example, we have not even begun to speculate on the best way to boil you. Should we sear you on a grill first? What would be the proper mixture of spices to put in the water? Should veggies be added to make for more of a stew-like meal? Perhaps marble rye bread to accompany the main entree?

      I am sure that PPP would prefer a cabernet with the meal. Domestic? What about appetizers? Dessert?

      So much left to be discussed ...

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  15. I think most if not all of us would agree with Grump in theory - but I'm with PPP and lightning36 - way over the top, and total dick move. There are more eloquent ways to state your position without offending someone who, from what I can tell, is a very nice guy. (I haven't met S.I. but hope to have the pleasure soon.)

    Let's not be too hard on Grump, though ... he has a fragile psyche, and is armed to the teeth.

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  16. I'll give you this Tony, not ending up flat on your back with a $1,000 or less roll for so long and then finally running it back up is truly amazing. You will however be back in the same situation again if you don't break your bad habits. I've gone a couple times you've mentioned where you were going to be playing and sat in the game just to watch you to see what your problems might be. I even mucked a couple medium pots I had you beat because I didn't want to take your money. You might have ended up wining them but you sure weren't ahead when I did it.

    I don't think you are nearly as bad now as others have described you being in the past but when you start talking at the table it truly is a horror show and does you absolutely no favors. Also in the nearly 2 years I've been following this saga I cannot think of one time you've ever had a video poker hand pay, not once. If you don't stop playing VP and talking at the table you will be right back where you were before. Living a stress filled life of nothing but desperation! Do you really want to go back to getting up and running from a $40 NL game in Cali every time you make $50?

    Your back is no longer against the wall. Play poker in Vegas, it's not time for a nationwide road trip. Set a goal, let's say 10K by Thanksgiving. Something you can achieve then focus on getting there every day. Find someone who will help you lift some of those old bans. If you can get back in either MGM or CET that's 5 or 6 rooms you can add to the rotation. Keep your mouth shut at the table and stay away from video poker. Your never going to get rich by most peoples standards but you think 10k is rich. You can do that for sure and stay there if you make better life decisions.

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    1. i remember a couple of times i hit $1000 jackpot in VP, but not anytime recently. im still ahead overall on the VBJ however. todays $512 VBJ win that got me back over $5100 (along with $100+ omaha8 win at the V to make up for the early $100 loss at the nugget in the $1-2 NL). i have been doing good about not playing any VP. when i have VBJ available--it helps keep me off VP.

      i had my $100 up to $248 at the nugget, and then the loose cannon raised it preflop who was playing the tourny and coming over for 10 minutes every break and buying in. i had KK got the entire stack in preflop against his 88, and he hit the river. i didnt feel like doing anything but leaving immediately, and heading straight to ride the bus out to play VBJ.

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  17. seattle irish wanted me to tell him what i thought of his trip report before i fall asleep. i thought it was well written and informative, although i hate it when people soft play friends too. (because it means they are playing harder against me than others so it feels like cheating and unfair).

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  18. not only did he want me to tell him that, he sent tons of texts asking about when id hurry up and approve his comments. am finally home in bed now--and i got a new phone that now works with my old smartphone, which is $40 a month instead of the $30 a month i was paying. at least ill have a working smartphone again, and i paid another $15 to have a new charger too. so thats where a bunch of the winnings went. and i got to eat my pizza, its getting cold.

    also i found out theres a certain company that bounces off clear for mobile broadband, and it will give a NV ip because of this, but they charge $100 upfront for the modem dammit. its i think $50 a month with 4g everything totally unlimited data, which is really great if true since he looked it up on his compputer for me and seen its giving a NV isp. ill hold off on this due to the large upfront cost.

    what i should do though is go pay the $58 for a laptop battery now that i need so bad since i can afford it finally. would be so nice to use the laptop in places like on the bus and mcdonalds, etc.

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  19. I love hearing you dopes whine about "soft playing". You see it between friends all the time.

    Poker is a game where everyone is acting like they're your friend, yet trying to take your money.....and then you morons whine about ethics.

    HAHAHA

    If you had any ethics, you wouldn't take money from homeless people like TBC.
    Taking advantage of a homeless, broke, autistic man is much worse than "soft playing",

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    1. Good point blurred, i know who is doing what to TBC by reading this for a yr a so now. So many selfish, inconsiderate, godless people in this world. Not everyone just a large amount of them seems to like the emotional rollercoaster of Hold 'Em.

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    2. Who is "taking money" from Tony? He is playing poker of his own free will, which he has a right to do. And most of the time, it's a reasonably stable form of income for him - income that he is unable to generate from a normal job, given his issues.

      Most of us who know Tony are not "taking advantage" of him ... we're trying to give him good advice, or stake him and buy him a meal when we're in town. How is that a bad thing?

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  20. Tony, very interesting, hold em is an information game. Becareful, It looks like your friends are wanting to win so bad Tony, they are now starting to wonder what is cheating and not cheating. The game of no limit 1-2 Hold "Em will always be a bust out tournament game. This does not matter how you look at it PERIOD. If you guys are just now realizing how agreements and signals can be cheating i am sure you have been in the middle of many agreements and didn't realize it. You boys and girls should really becareful, out of all the games considered poker knowing where one facecard or ace is in Hold 'Em can change everything, and watching two friends and a stranger would be a terrible way to figure it out. You never know you may have been stuck in the hand while a friend and his buddy had a sweetheart agreement. Tony do your little Blogger buddies even know how to watch out of other dirty lil' poker tricks? You guys keep messing with that idiot game Hold 'Em where you have to play one speed constantly, why do you think all the older pro's you don't hear about now had coked out looking noses. I seen so many crack head looking Hold "em players in my lifetime i actually started to feel sorry for them. They had to keep up this mile high ego on drugs and their faces looked horrible after a few yrs.

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    1. Im somewhat offended by ur opinion of nl because once I started playing nl instead of limit, I had more money and found winning over $100 a day much more doable.

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