Monday, February 16, 2015

one hand history

i rode the first bus of the morning over to the Hardrock (hours are different now and i dont like it, would rather be riding the last bus of the night, and coming home in the morning). But they got messed up from me missing a bus the other day, and sleeping too long, and spending the weekend going out to Derby Lane and back with Uber overnight.

so im just now getting home, in the afternoon and seriously concerned i wont wake up in time for the last bus if i dont sleep immediately. but i might forget this HH if i dont post it immediately.

I immediately left the game on my BB right afterwards. for i was in the game for $105, and had it up to $415 before i made a bad play, and had given back very little of it. what i want to know is was my play really bad, or did it just look bad due to the results? after leaving the game, i waited around about 15 minutes, then played $3-6 omaha for over 2 hours, eventually losing $24 and being bored in the game. i still managed to make it home barely over $110 ahead for the night.

so ive got $11,900+ and $9 on bovada. (cashed out my points to play a $3 tourny, and made $9 in the tourny). this was after i blew the other $550 on bovada the night before playing both BJ and then PLO8 at the $2-4 level, desperately trying to recover by buying in the entire $347.

i had 9 10 diamonds and limped in middle position (yes im supposed to fold, but none of the good players do it, only the nits, and certainly none of the straddlers or LAG players.) there are 4-5 of us and the flop comes 278  rainbow. guy in first position bets $5 and we all call. turn comes K putting a 2nd heart on the board. everyone checks, and i make a bet of $30 hoping to take it down. i get 2 callers, both of whom im convinced cannot beat my nonexistent K.

river comes 5d, (complete blank) and i bet $105. the asian guy in seat 1 calls after the other guy folds. turns out the river gave him 2 pair, and he missed a heart draw. was that a bad bet? now u see why i dont like playing with asians--they bluff u too much and u cannot bluff them. theyre too hard to play against.


25 comments:

  1. How are you repping a K here? What hand with a K could you have that you limp preflop, call flop, then hit a k on turn? Give me one hand.

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    1. notice stealthmunks approval of my play on RTP of this hand. flush draw containing a king perhaps? dont have to actually have a king, could have better than that i knew they didnt have kings or better.

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    2. He didn't directly approve of your play. Read it again. He conditionally approved it depending on why you were bluffing. I agree with his thoughts. He agreed with mine. He has a good point that it depends on what level your opponents are on. You didnt do a job of explaining why you bluffed. You only made it seem like you were trying to rep a King which you can never have.

      It doesn't really matter. You're not going to listen to or understand my points. You look for reasons to corroborate what you do not improve. You selective pick advice. Go read what I wrote again and then go read what he wrote.

      Anyways congrats on another big score. Stick to poker if you can

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    3. The flop was rainbow, you talking about a backdoor flush draw? And no, stealthmunk didn't exactly approve of your play.

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  2. In a vacuum it is probably a bad play... you had lots of action, someone was likely to hit something. If you had a read on the remaining players on the river, then it is a good bet, but you don't mention any read that made you think you could get them to fold. (And in fact your comment about Asians being unbluffable makes me think you probably thought the exact opposite) With the information given, I think the river bet is a desperation move to try to chase the money you already put in back to your stack.

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  3. As usual, your hand history is missing key pieces of information such as your table image, table dynamic, stack sizes, opponents tendencies, etc, etc.

    I do have a question though, why did you say the river 5d is a complete blank? With a limped pot and everyone calling on the flop, the 5 could have completed a couple of straight draws.

    Another question, what hand are you representing? The flop is rainbow and low, what hand do you have that makes you limp preflop, call the flop, and then hit the K on the turn? Not only that, what kind of hand will you be making pot sized bet on the turn and river? I think your bet size is kind of wonky if we only look at this one hand. How do you usually bet a one pair hand on the turn and river? I think 1/2 pot on the turn and river would have accomplished the same thing.

    Lastly, if Asians bluff u too much and u cannot bluff them, then you should love to play with them. Just call light, and value bet them to death, don't bluff. Easy money, what is the problem?

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    1. hard to make money when u have to depend on value betting to win instead of bluffing. often u never make a real hand to value bet.

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    2. Please explain how to make money by bluffing those that can't be bluffed?

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  4. now u see why i dont like playing with asians--they bluff u too much and u cannot bluff them. theyre too hard to play against.

    It really has nothing to do with that Tony. Look at the board, 2 pair is a really strong hand. He's only scared of 6-9 or a set? And he could totally rule out 6-9 with your turn bet. You didn't raise pre flop and just called $5 on the flop so you can almost totally rule out everything but a set of 5's which is unlikely.

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  5. Frankly I am more interested in the Bovada story Tony. If I understand you correctly you donked off a couple hundo playing online BJ and about the same on PLO8 at the $2-4 level? But you fortunately turned some points into a $3 entry that you won $9 to go from a zero balance on Bovada to having $9 on Bovada?

    I believe when you confirm what really happened in the Bovada story you might have just set yourself up for an EPIC comeback. Thousands of your readers would tell you to your face that the Bovada BJ loss was stupid on so many levels and also the PLO8 loss as well (but not quite as bad as the BJ loss). And I would be one of them.

    But... now you have the opportunity to rebuild the Bovada roll from that $9 and recover to $550 again. Now that would be effing awesome Tony! But you do need to adjust your withdrawl strategy to no longer take govt seizures into account and instead make your future withdrawls to not repeat the same stupid moves that you just pulled with the Bovada BJ/PLO8 bankroll dump.

    And while you are in the Tampa St Pete area for the love of cod you need to try out a fish appetizer that I am certain you have never eaten before in your life. That would be grouper cheeks. That is a chunk of meat cut out of a sinus cavity of sorts between the eyeball and the upper jaw and a larger grouper. No bones involved and this is the best fish you will have eaten in your life Tony! I know the Frenchy's restaurants have grouper cheeks on their menus at several locations in Pinellas county (I don't think they have a location on the Tampa side of the bay). This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for you Tony and I think you should invest $20 for trying out grouper cheeks!

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    1. typo fix: ...That is a chunk of meat cut out of the sinus cavity of sorts between the eyeball and upper jaw ON A larger grouper.

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    2. This is what they look like on a plate...

      http://frenchysonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/grouper-cheeks-Cafe-w1200-h900-300x200.jpg

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  6. You should be raising pre and definitely be raising the flop.

    LOL at Jerry...you don't like playing with players who don't bluff and don't fold. Is this a troll? I mean I can't even fathom that someone could type this for real.

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    1. Oops just reread...my error

      LOL Tony...amazing you could write that and think you are good at the poker

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  7. You have been playing poker for how long now? I'm Asian and You tried to bluff me...in a LIMIT game, no less. I don't know about you and your comments Tony. When did you figure out this little factoid about Asians anyway?

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  8. Describe some of your big winning hands on the way to the $863 win last night.

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  9. lots of sets. a few times, i missed value i think by not reraising a guy i had beat. called a bluff once, and forgot most of the hands. was too busy chatting with stealthmunk on twitter.

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    1. Methinks we found a leak in your game...

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    2. lol lots of sets is the only way you win
      congrats on running hot

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  10. Curious why you didn't answer my questio: if you know Asians to be unbluffable, why did you try to bluff me in a limit Omaha game?

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    1. Maybe he has another read that involves being able to push the ladies around? I'm sure some of Tony's stereotypes have to be in conflict with each other.

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  11. he thinks u r native american????????

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  12. The 9T hand. You only put $7 in the pot so far and on the turn everyone checks to you and you have a straight draw. I would have taken the free card and see if I hit my straight and if not then just fold to a raise on the river. By giving you the opportunity to get a free card to hit your straight is a mistake on there part. You should have just taken the gift they were giving you.

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