Tuesday, May 26, 2015

how do u know when to leave a really good game, and VIVA las Vegas

well im happy to say that i'm still clearing almost $14 an hour as i pass the 2000 hour mark. i never realized a few years back i could long term average that much per hour. i always guessed it would be $10 or less an hour and thats probably why i spent so much time trying to play other games instead of poker because i wanted to play something that would win something decent (as opposed to something small).

and i miss Vegas. i dont really understand why my hourly there was smaller than reno, Md live and tampa. maybe it wasnt a big enough sample size or other poor decision making on my part. But after viewing about 20 of the troopers videos from his Vlog, and seeing how large most of his wins were in vegas, i feel like there's no reason my wins shouldnt at least match his, and i feel like i took too many small profits and ran, or played with an insufficient amount of chips on the table. I'm certainly a much longer and more experienced player. and i take the money far more seriously--evidence being that i get more upset over a loss.

incidently for those of who unaware of who the trooper is (probably the vast majority of u), here is a link to his videos. https://www.youtube.com/user/TheTrooper97Vlog. he reminds me an awful lot of sickcallMcGee.

so im wishing i was in vegas now for the next 6 weeks, to play a few PLO8 tourneys, and to see some people id never get to see otherwise. theres still many rooms i can play in, just not the ones most people prefer to visit. even the ones im banned at, most of the employees wouldnt know or remember being 15+ years ago many of them places.

also maybe the games in Vegas have improved (as the economy has improved). i do know Vegas is really the only decent beatable VBJ machine that pays 100.4% payback (on 5x points days, otherwise 99.4) before counting is taken into consideration. many places up here the comp and cashback rate is quite small.

if i was living at Vinces house, my rent would actually be less than in Reno, no more $90 a month internet fees would be needed, and sometimes id have free food or transportation, (and other days id be paying more). i would miss grabbing my own pop and coffee and free soup all days, and the Peppermill has far better rules regarding straddles than anywhere in Vegas.

But to go to Vegas, allegiant runs very few times a week and charges tons for baggage. southwest goes alot and is also nonstop, but it costs over $200. other flights are like $140-155 but u have to deal with the nuisance of stopping in Phx or LAX, and changing planes. and i dont know if they have baggage fees too. feels really dumb how if the plane is wasting extra time and gas they charge u less and if u go straight there, they charge u more. such as the plane to vegas thru Phx, u pay a lot more if u get off in Phx than if u just go thru all the way into vegas. (of course if u have zero checked luggage, then u can get away with this).

and now to talk about the wild game i was in, what set me on tilt, and why i sometimes feel like i have too much on the table instead of too little. i would probably never ever feel that way if i had an extra $10k or so in the roll. its not a good idea to have a large amount of ur total bankroll at risk all at once.

and this game was one of the loosest ive ever seen mostly due to 1-2 people not from Reno one from overseas and planning to head to vegas for tomorrows tourny. there were 3-4 stacks over $500 each, and $15 definitely wouldnt be a big enough raise to eliminate the field preflop.

Before the game got loose, (when i first sat) i got dealt AA and made it $10 (not the VERY first hand, but within under 10 hands). a regular ive played with all the time makes it $30. everyone folds and i go allin for a bit over $100. he thinks, folds, and open shows KK. the guy at the other end of the table is shocked he folded, (a loose regular) claims the math is 42-1 against me having AA, and pays $1 to see me turn over my AA.

i'm slowly building up my stack off my $120 buyin, and eventually win a BIG pot with KK. i raised preflop and get the usual 5 or more callers. flop comes JT4 with 2 hearts. 2 people check to me, and i shoved for $88 or so. one guy calls, the loosest european shoves allin for about $300+ more, and the guy with AJ spades (backdoor flush draw and top pair) folds. the shover has 10 2 of hearts for a pair and a draw and misses. turns out the river was an ace, so its a good thing that he got the other guy out for me.

so im briefly up over $300 (either from that hand or one ive forgotten) and then im considering leaving but not too seriously for its a great game, and i need some really BIG wins to get my hourly built back up (and my roll--for if i had $12k or more i could make a short trip into vegas and risk dropping up to $2000 over the trip). again the loosest player makes it $10 preflop and i make it $22, thinking im probably not raising enough. what would most of u do?

get the usual 4-5 callers, and luckily he didnt come over the top of me. he wasnt quite that loose. flop comes up A25 with 2 hearts and i have the K of hearts. i am first to act and i check, about 100% positive someone else will bet. (otherwise id never check). 2 guys behind me check, and then the loose player bets $85. i shove, and the other 2 guys drop out and the loose player calls with 37 of hearts. hits the 4 on the turn for the straight, and my third A on the river just dont improve me enough to win.

so im now suddenly $10 in the hole. and im really sick and pissed i didnt leave. but would u have left a good game earlier being up over $300?

i did manage to win another pot in the next orbit of blinds, so i left the room to go home and eat (and update the blog) with a $52 profit for the day, so now im at $9081. and ill probably be back over there later once my Bovada tourny ends and ive ate and got everything done. am 14th out of 126 entrants on Bovada, about 65 are remaining, and 18 get paid. i was briefly in 2nd once early on.


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  1. Tony says..."so im now suddenly $10 in the hole. and im really sick and pissed i didnt leave. but would u have left a good game earlier being up over $300?"

    I have left plenty of good games, but never because I was up a certain amount of money.

    What Bovada tourney are you in? I am in the $15k guaranteed, $55 buyin one. Not doing too well in it 8-(

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  2. It sounds like you are trying to come up with reasons to go to Las Vegas. I feel totally stupid for even saying this because it has been said so many times before, but you could likely fix things with most of the poker rooms in Las Vegas if you would just get off your lazy butt and do it.

    As I recall, the about the only tourist rooms you can play in are Wynn, Strat and the Nugget. Many tourists and visitors don't go downtown, the middle of nowhere (Strat) or the north end of the strip. You miss out on the good action rooms like MGM, Bally's and Mirage, not to mention places like Caesars Palace and Bellagio. If you have any thought about going back to Las Vegas, make a plan to get back in the good graces with the choice rooms.

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    1. The problem with that, lightning, is that poker room managers and shift supervisors in Vegas tend to know each other, and many follow Tony on social media. His most recent Vegas bannings (not to mention bizarre outbursts at well-respected pros like Ed Miller) make it much less likely the long-term ones will get lifted.

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  3. So you're offended by my pornographic Jesus posts, and I'm offended by your bigotry and homophobia. I'd say that makes us even.

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    1. Anything you say against Jesus Christ offends me too. You have no idea what he has given to us!

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    2. War, famine, pestilence and death?

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  4. Trooper would own you Tony.. Just the way he handles himself on the table shows that.. You freak out and hit the panic button like a little girl too easy... Go ahead and leave a great game when your up $50. That makes perfect sense. You literally left one of the best games you can remember and for what? Because you lost a big pot? Now if you left the game because you tilted and you don't think you would be at your best then that is ok.. But next time, take your beating, keep grinding, and stay strong mentally in such a great game... Don't hit the Bitch button too easy. You'll do fine.

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  5. I had the same thought about the Trooper... it seems like he has very large wins without the number of large loses you would think would come with that. When I first was watching his videos I figured he was padding the numbers, but then playing with him a couple times (without ever announcing it) the count he gave in his video was more or less where I thought he was. He is a very solid player, and having played with both of you, I'd put my money on him...

    I also don't follow your logic about, you care more about a big loss, so that makes you a better player? One of the more recent videos where he was out 4 figures, he looked visible sick... would it make you feel better about his game if he threw a glass at someone and called them a nigger?

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  6. Trooper would have liked some of the joints I stayed at living downtown off main street. I thinkthey tore them down now.

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  7. Lightening does make a good point. Many casinos are under new ownership, you may be shocked. I worked at the horseshoe the day binion sold it. A lot of mergers and acquisitions have happened.

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    1. PokerKat made a better point. It is a small circle, those that runs the poker rooms and deals in them. Tony is well known amongst that circle. I will be shocked if Tony can play in ANY Vegas poker room without someone noticing.

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    2. really dont matter if the same employees have been working there for many years

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    3. Additionally Vegas has changed. A lower fraction of money spent here is on gambling and, I think as a result, casinos have a much lower tolerance for bad behavior. Men Nguyen bouncing Corona bottles off tourists' heads isn't funny anymore. Vegas simply isn't a viable option for someone with Tony's antics.

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  8. Hey Tony,

    Just had a look at the Southwest, one way ticket to Las Vegas can be bought for $92 with Southwest on selected flights during June, July and August. This is less than one bet for you on the VBJ machine at El Cortez.

    Might do you good to get back down there for a couple of weeks. Your choice. I will be staying at 4 Queens for about a week from August 2.

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    1. the problem is the only way to get those prices is to buy 2 or more weeks ahead of time, and then id be forced to go even if i no longer felt it would be a good idea. i never go anywhere to travel unless its on the spur of the moment

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    2. Well Tony, then the problem is you isn't it?

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  9. That was a good game to keep playing. Nothing wrong with staying. I may be in Vegas again mid-June for several days (12-16).

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    1. hey nice to hear from u, its been a long time. if i am not there, other friends might not mind saying hi to u

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  10. John Doe, you may not have seen this on the previous blog post, so I copied it here:

    John Doe says..."I would take the million and give it to people like David C. Cooke."

    You can't give away a million if you are poor. If you want to have a million to give away, then you have to get rich first.

    So, back to my original question, what do you like about being poor?

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    1. Money is a tax on the spirit! Being poor I don't have to worry about that unnecessary tax. Living for the Spirit comes naturally when your not worried about money and greed!

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    2. Interesting, yet you play in a game where the object is to relieve other players from the as much of their money as possible.

      As far as money being a tax on your spirit, it may be as much a matter of your spirit as it is a matter of money.

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    3. Ray has actually played very little poker in the last 5 yrs. he used to play as often as i did many years back when i knew him. i doubt he really wants to be poor as much as he is used to it, (and comfortable with it)

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    4. You made a great point my old friend!

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    5. You made a great point, my old friend! Thanks Tony.

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  11. another reason Vegas is nicer than Reno is the fact when u wake up at 2.30am, u wont be forced to play shorthanded hoping the last game of the night doesnt break up. the only reason i left vegas was mainly due to transportation and housing issues. (and the worry id bet way too much on the VBJ). From reading others reports of their time in vegas, i dont think the games are bad as i originally felt. That being said, a lot has happened since i went to vegas with the only $600 or less to my name to celebrate my 21st birthday. Sure prices have gone up, but then i felt that might be enough to not go broke on, and now i feel $10k isnt enough. i always am afraid of the worst happening, and ive had a lot of big drops in my life.

    That being said, the vast majority of people coming to vegas with much less have had success (such as the Trooper and pure aggression). i might make more mistakes due to emotional tilt, but the added age and experience should make up for it.

    i feel like my biggest regret isnt that i ain't playing bigger than $1-2 live, but the fact i blew my chances for online success in the early days on online poker. (party, planet poker, pokerstars, etc). The only reason i ever did so much for Britni was i felt so bad at myself for telling Lorna Britnis yahoo messenger IM when Lorna demanded it of me, and Lorna subsequently harrassing Britni with nasty messages online that her family seen. i felt guilty because i knew i should have kept that private, i felt guilty because i shouldnt have gave Lorna money--and Britni felt like i loved Lorna. so i wanted to do everything i could to show Britni that wasnt true.

    Britni waited about 3 yrs to start needing large sums of money. 2003-2005, we simply hung out on YM and talked 3-5 hours a day. she had no time to be with any other guys. i think had i listened to her then about being more private on the net, and not ever talking to Lorna again, she wouldve treated me differently and i couldve met her more often. she thought i didnt care enough about my family and my son and that bothered her. (she once talked to my mom on the phone for quite a long time, and my mom thought she was a nice person). my mom always hated Lorna. of course, my mom didnt feel like i had any business ever giving either of them any money though.

    Lorna is now married and never plays online poker anymore instead of living alone in a trailer and her daughter is now grown and over 18.

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    1. "I might make more mistakes due to emotional tilt, but the added age and experience should make up for it. "

      How does this work, Tony? It seems to me that added age and experience can be GREAT aids to your game, but that the only way they can really help you is by preventing silly emotional blowups.

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  12. had i never wasted a dime of my online poker money, running up a huge balance online back then wouldve been easy with all the tons of hours i had to devote to playing more than most people. (even playing only 1-2 tables). i had almost no living expenses back then to pay. so yeah that was the biggest opportunity I blew. plus then i was still young enough to try and meet women age 21-30. and i never bothered, all i cared about was talking to one or two women i hung out with daily on the net who i felt were my friends i could relate to since they enjoyed online poker. at least at first. Britni got to the point where she got so fed up with losing, (and pressure from her family not to play online) that she just didnt feel like playing anymore once black friday hit.

    i shouldve found a nice women like Ray did (although it didnt last and its been over as of a few years back). that way id have more experience in knowing how to not upset women nowdays. I just want women to be able to show compassion, (and let u know they care about others, not just themselves like i feel they do). i want them to care about other women too who are much worse off than themselves. i feel a lot of jealousy exists among women. a lot of competition

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  13. Tony you hit that right on the nose. I have never seen such a disconnect in a world. It's unreal, at least you didn't have a woman stalker some woman flip you out. I would rather buy a cake this year and celebrate ten years of celibacy. The world is nuts! What happened to family values and a strong moral code of conduct?

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    1. It's apparent neither you nor Tony like women

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  14. Bro when it comes to women you need to get in the game more. Hell I have minimal money coming in and currently have 3 women that want me to move in with them and a 4th that doesn;t want me to leave the state I;m in. I have never gone more than 3 weeks without some babe I'm hooked up with. It;s not hard to find a relationship.

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    1. Are they Christian woman flushdraw?

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    2. Flushdraw is just giving them the ol' meat hammer. No shame in that.

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  15. Best comments in a long time
    : GOD, POKER, VEGAS, WOMEN, TICKET PRICES.

    Why do the ladies have to be Christian to hook up? Got a catholic girl school fetish???

    Kat- great comments

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  16. Point taken John Doe lol. I mean they believe in God but that's where it stops.

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  17. certainly a different world than the one i was growing up in. nowdays u are condemned for not approving of immoral sexual perversions. when i was a kid, i got beat up alot by guys because they thought i was gay. (i wasnt). no one ever realized someday its objecting to homosexuality most people would consider immoral instead of being homosexual. i cannot relate to this world at all. but i could still use friends love and understanding.

    and im depressed now and going to sleep, the $8900 id built up all the way to $10,200 is now only at $9300, finally had a big losing session giving back most of the profits. really need to get into reno--i bet my landlord wonders where i am. funny he didnt send me a text like he does when i get a package in the mail. also my phone i cannot understand what i did to it to shut off the sound. searched multiple things and everything keeps saying the sound is on, yet it wont ring when i get a call.i doubt ill have much sleep cause im to check out or renew and i think i better not renew.

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  18. so i know i need to get back into Reno to pay the landlord. (as of Thursday). i know he isnt too concerned since he hasnt sent me any texts though, like he does when i receive a package. was trying to see about going there today, but didnt have time to make the 1pm city bus into truckee for the 2.56pm amtrak. the hotel asked if i was renewing my room, so i said yes, and the shuttle that always wants 24 hour notice, i decided id just take them tomorrow. so i went and paid $55 comps for a weekend, and that ate up about half my remaining comps. as much as im betting on the VBJ it still is too hard to earn $55 comps in one day. thats like $25k or more in coin in.

    so i renewed the room, then checked with a couple of poker friends online, neither of whom are going to reno today. then i called the shuttle, and a different guy was on the phone. no idea if he is the main boss or not, but he told me at 315pm they are dropping a couple tourists off at the Biltmore coming from the reno airport at 2pm and he said he would be willing to pick me up THEN and take me back into reno without me having to wait 24 hours. (he said he can do things the other employees cant do). so i agreed to set up the trip and i guess i need to start packing. wish id known that before i renewed my room instead of checking out late about 12.30pm. at least ill be in reno tonight to sleep or play poker and at least ill be able to pay the landlord. had i not lost $900 back last night id be up a lot more for the trip.

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  19. Tony, am I reading this right? You paid $55 to renew your room then decided to go back to Reno instead? You wasted $55 even if it was comps when a couple of days ago you would not outlay $92 in advance for a flight. Well you were certainly right about one thing, you definitely do things on the spur of the moment. Even if no one else can understand your reasoning.

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    1. i did get the host to have the hotel reimburse the comps back on my acct, since i was only in the room less than 2 additional hours.

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    2. Well I'm glad you thought about doing that and that the host agreed. you never know when you might need those comps.

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