Sunday, November 8, 2015

How do u play poker against old people?

I'm so relieved to have my laundry done and off my mind for the next 3 weeks now, and to still be sitting with $19,002 after a few small wins finally. If only everything else badly needing taken care of was also done and off my mind.

Big question for today thats been really causing me problems is how do u play against old people who refuse to bet their hands? (primarily in the $2-20 limit games). i know the key to winning poker is aggressive poker, but that sure dont seem to ring true when playing with a ton of old people. seems everytime im in late position, and have a hand like QK suited or AQ offsuit (which every book in the world says raise with) after a ton of limpers on the button, i get called by a much stronger hand they just didnt raise with. i see a lot of guys never raise no matter what preflop, especially with AK, even KK, but u cant automatically put them on it when they call my raise cause ive seen them call with TJ too. or A7 suited, etc.

so what do u do? i dont think the answer is to go along with the group--and also not bet my hand. that feels too weak. this problem usually only occurs in games filled with old people. younger guys play far more aggressive. this is really been causing problems when i try to bet my hand preflop. i tried to google it online but couldnt find any helpful articles--any links would be appreciated. ive never been good at google searches, never sure how to word the question, and its way too many words to get a good result. all thats coming up is videos for loose passive ONLINE players (not live) besides these guys arent exactly loose either, but more tight. they just wont raise preflop is all.

how can u bet ur hand preflop (like u should) when u never have any way to know whose sitting on a much better hand dominating u big time?

am also glad i finally broke down and made a decent size deposit on Bovada to play from my room. got about $175 on there now. not enough to play many $20 or $50 sngs but at least its something to work with.

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  1. If you are playing with the same folks you need to consider trying to put them on hand ranges. It sounds as if you may have callers from two general groups of people, those who just want to see the flop and players with a good starting hand. You should ask yourself if raising bigger will eliminate part of the field. Is there a pre-flop price that the 'just want to see the flop' folks are unwilling to pay. This would be more effective if you can identify which are the truly tight players who are likely in with a better hand than yours. If you sucessfully limit the field post flop to you and what is likely the better hand you know that and can back off if you don't hit the flop big time. If you choose not to raise bigger and go with the flow you have invested the minimum in what has basically become a drawing hand, you can let it go if you don't hit the flop big. You need to understand that folks not betting their hands have identified you as a loose aggressive player and are using you to bet their hands. In doing so they disguise their hands and likely get paid off more because other people are calling you cause you are loose and the callers are focused on you and not the other caller (with the good hand) who is coming quietly along.

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  2. Misleading title again. I think you meant to say how do you play against tight passive players. It is pretty simply really. Just play preflop normal. Post flop, if they play back at you, fold anything less than top 2. If they just call your bets, don't try thin value bets, control the pot size and if you can, try only 2 streets of value if you have a TPTK type hand. That's it, simple.

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  3. Play just really strong hands and move all in with couples.

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    1. Is this some sort of kinky suggestion that TBCshould move in with an older couple? At least he would get his laundry done I guess...

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  4. Now now folks, before shedding any kind of wisdom upon Tony. Care to take any bets on whether or not he actually processes your opinion and well articulated thoughts and uses them to benefit his life?

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    1. Spot on. He doesn't actually care what you think about the topic of playing against tight passives. He's just lamenting his recent losses.

      Fortunately it sounds like he's having success again martingaling -EV games.

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    2. The truth speaks the truth, two posts in a row.

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    3. I've posted this exact same thing for several years here. That won't stop the 99% of people constantly giving TBC advice

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  5. Keep betting until you meet resistance. On the river you can consider checking.

    If they call preflop with anything from A7, 10J to KK, more often than not their hand will not be strong enough to reach showdown. And you win in all those cases.

    If you get raised or check-raised, fold. But don't snap fold, make them think you are considering calling.

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  6. Tony: one sidenote to the previous blog post regarding 50 cent coins... the 50 cent coins make perfect tips in some cases. So don't dread them. When you get them use them for tips...

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  7. THANK THE LORD!!! Laundry is done!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  8. Tony in games filled with old people limp more often especially in position looking to out flop them or outplay them post flop. Get two pair or better and take them to value town. TTheydidnt Sit their all day waiting for aces only to fold them...

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