Sunday, April 23, 2017

Good riddance to Atlantic city, their policies, and their casinos

 
 Theres lots i dislike about atlantic city and me coming here wasnt a good idea. wont be my first or last bad idea. idea was to get free rooms (minus resort fee) most of the time, plus pick up about 15 times per month $50 day in free play in the Trop (until they cut it off for me not playing the machines heavily like on previous trips). u see right now, id prefer to not use my 2 free upcoming nights ive earned from playing poker in Harrahs AC for sun and mon nights and just get the hell out of state to somewhere else, where yet im unsure of. the room i paid for on whitehorse pike ends sunday morning. paid much more for the week than i shouldve too, my first mistake. price used to be less.

but i've got $50 free play coming today, and tomorrow, plus monday. then various dates between mon and the end of april too. but when i left Greektown in detroit (before i bought and plane tickets) i was a full $2300 better off. im making nothing here. 6 of my last 8 sessions were losses in poker. i cant seem to win in $5-10 stud either, buyin too much on tilt when i play $2-5 and tend to sit too long. even when up, i sit too long and dont leave with much profit. when stuck, i dig the hole much bigger. and i miss not having free meals like in shreveport, or a home to eat cheaply in like Toledo and vegas. and im disappointed Ray still hasnt found another car. plus lost so steadily hes now got no money to invest in poker or the car.

i tried to somewhat fix my hours, for games suck 8am to 4pm. today ill be starting about 1.30pm instead of 7am. slept til 11 this morning.

here is a few of the major grievances regarding AC cardrooms, some of which are universal to all properties in town.

1. NO PHONE OUTLETS underneath the seats. pretty much in every pokerroom, with the exception of stud games in the borgata, and $2-5 or higher. (this means no chargers in $1-2 NL upfront of the room in the borgata by the door). only in the back section towards the other room, or in it. this really puts me on tilt, keeping me from doing what i need to do to avoid frustration or boredom. plus the very poor connections especially in the Trop, dont help either.

2. u need to buyin from the cage, of course sometimes they discriminate who they enforce this against.

3. in the Borgata u need to post the BB before u can be dealt in a hand. Plus in stud often theres collusion of folks anteing for friends.

4. when u buy chips from the borgata cage, all transactions must be in multiples of $20. but not when rebuying from the dealers. unlike other places, where u cant buy in odd amounts via the dealer, but u can from the cage.

5.the Nugget closes every night at 4am, even when the game is FULL

6. its 10 handed, not 9, everywhere u go.

Ray would like the fact u see so many nice looking women in the poker rooms here in AC. 2 white girls in the trop play there everyday, theyre probably about 40 or so. No idea if theyre winning players or not. they seem to know all the guys, particularly the black regulars. then theres shay the dealer from Harrahs and her friend (young black girl whose usually playing the mornings). their table banter makes them seem like enemies. i have no idea if she is taken, or if she prefers white or black guys. but shes playing in Harrahs every morning. i wish i knew which people have plenty of money, and which ones are pretty broke and really needing the free rooms sun-thurs for 4 hours of play. there seems to be BIG cliques among the regulars here, in BOTH harrahs and the Trop, and if u arent one of them u feel like an outsider, especially among the morning crews.

the only guy i know is broke is the deaf guy, always drunk, always carrying a beer, but almost never playing poker himself. but he seems to walk the Trop often, looking for who he can bum $1 off of (without speaking of course). sometimes he gives a quick backrub. and its very unsafe walking pacific after dark, (which i did lots in the days i gave $20-60 to hookers over 15 yrs ago). if u go to 7-11 or anywhere, u will be asked for money. u never should ask once its dark out, i used to quit when i panhandled in the 1990s once it got dark, why? because it makes u feel like a mugging getting ready to happen instead of nonthreatening request. plus, no one will give, theyre afraid to get close or reach for cash once its dark. this is one reason i dont like riding the jitney at night. or walking 1 block pacific to atlantic to the bus terminal to get the 554 out to whitehorse pike once its dark.

many of the rich folks from NYC with old money who frequent these places arent very good at poker, thats for sure. i didnt play it but i have it on good authority there was over $15,000 in the $2-5 NL in the Trop saturday night. i was too busy recovering $500 of my previous days losses in the $1-2 NL that night.

i was originally going to add some things, make this blog longer, talk on a few things at my table, but im sleepy, this needs updated, and im too tired and thought better of part of it. suffice it to say im still $1700 less off than when i left detroit, half on expenses the rest of losing stud sessions, 1 $2-5 NL session, or id be up quite a bit.

i do think ill go this weekend, instead of going back out to whitehorse pike for rooms. i get too tired to use the bus, wasted $30 4 times for uber. not wise, but saves ur life from danger. no idea which city ill go. theres daily $87 flights to south florida, and motel prices are down now.






30 comments:

  1. Head out to Chicago for some poker. There is horseshoe Hammond and grand Victoria casino in Elgin with good games. Guessing you could find a weekly rate in your budget with plenty of transportation options in the area.

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  2. Go back to Shreveport where you can actually win.

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  3. Go to Tampa florida, lot's of good poker on weekends at Hardrock. Good action at Derby lane as well. You won't win since you are a terrible player, but I would love to take your money.

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    1. well not only is he terrible but playing 1/2 nl while paying for hotels doesn't get you anywhere

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  4. Tony, OMG if you would have been able to post about playing poker with the heirs to the Astor, Du Pont, Rockefeller, Rothschild and Vanderbilt "old money" fortunes that could have been the high-water mark in your blogging career! You could have boasted about how much of that $15K on the table that you took off of the trust-fund babies!

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  5. 1)how do you not have free rooms at borgata if you've played there before? they give two nights per week from poker

    2) the buy ins done at the cage is a good rule. no reason the game should be held up bc some clown stands around for a while instead of getting chips while waiting for his game to be called

    3)the multiples of 20 below black is a good rule. it speeds things up-again from jokers buying dumb amounts of chips

    4)you're almost 50 years old. if you were actually good at poker you would be playing higher games by now which are all 9 handed

    5)the phone thing is a minor annoyance. but if your phone is dying that often or you can't just plug it in and not have it at the table for an hour while it recharges maybe you should be paying more attention to the game. typical annoying nit on his phone
    playing no hands whose bad for the game.

    6) 15k isn't a lot for a 2/5 nl limit game that has been running all day. it's not a small amount either- but defnitely not huge like you're making it out to be

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    1. You can also invest in a $20 battery pack and use that to extend your battery life, but $20 will put a huge hit on your bankroll.

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    2. i think the battery stick i paid $35 for in the sprint store and carry with me everywhere is what u mean. its supposed to give 2 full charges but only gives about 1 1/2

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    3. the $2-5 only been going less than 3 hours by then, no other poker room uses $20 increments at the cage only, almost everywhere in vegas or reno u buy chips from the desk or dealer instead of a cage, 90% of rooms dont have a cage. only big rooms do. ive hardly played in the borgata in the past. no email offers there. but my free rooms mostly came from non poker games in the past in AC. pretty sure that it wasnt poker is why the trop and Taj would send them to me.

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  6. Tony:

    What is the collusion going on here? Can you help me understand what you're referencing when you say people ante for their friends and how that constitutes collusion?

    "3. in the Borgata u need to post the BB before u can be dealt in a hand. Plus in stud often theres collusion of folks anteing for friends."

    thanks,

    s.i.

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    1. if 1 guy is paying 50c per hand to ante, and a group of 4 keep throwing in $2 for themselves when 1 of them wins, its no different than if a guy could sit in $1-2 NL and have someone else post his BB every time instead of him. im not going to sit and post every pot if im the only one who needs to do it.

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    2. That isn't collusion. Why do you care if the antes came from each player individually, one player paying others, or from the tooth fairy? It's all the same. Are you just jealous that nobody is paying your ante?

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    3. Still not seeing it, Tony:

      col·lu·sion
      kəˈlo͞oZHən
      noun
      secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

      It's certainly a nice thing for them to do for each other. But how does that impact you? Do you care whether you win money from player A, or player B? Or do you just care that you won money? Who antes impacts you not one little bit, sir.

      s.i.

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    4. SeattleIrish,

      This was my exact initial reaction too, but believe it or not, after some thought, it is conceivable that this anteing business would lead to some serious collusion.

      The first thing you have to realize is that anteing for 3 other players is an overwhelmingly huge expense. In stud you ante every hand, but you only post the bring-in one out of ten hands. So if Phil Ivey is in the game, when he's the one anteing for his friends, he's now temporarily a losing player.

      So if the agreement is that the player in the group who is winning the most at the time pays for the others' antes, then you could imagine how if you were a member of the group winning anywhere close to the amount won by that player, you don't really benefit much at all by winning chips from that player. If you bring his stack down and yours up, you risk being dubbed the ante loser for quite a while.

      Whenever there are incentives to win some players' chips over others, the game solution will in general deviate from the one based on the model assuming indifference. The correct play in any instance will then depend on the specifics of this anteing agreement of which you are potentially unaware. But what's worse is that the way the agreement works (to some degree) is to incentivise the players of the group to act (in effect) for the benefit of the group as a whole. This is necessarily how collusion in any game occurs.

      For instance, for four players of roughly equal skill level playing only this game together for a sufficienty long period of time, if the agreement were that the player who was winning the most lifetime ante'd for the others, then their situation is mathematically equivalent to playing out of the same bankroll.

      In stud, there are plenty of plays that are valued radically differently if one is trying to benefit the communal roll instead of one's own stack. Raising light to steal a teammate's bring-in, betting to charge possible draws of an opponent and a teammate etc.

      So TBC is right on this point. I think the bigger question is why he's still choosing to play a game with a 50 cent ante in the first place.

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    5. Bill:

      You could be right, if the scenario is as you describe. However, I think you're filling in a lot of gaps to reach that conclusion based on: "Plus in stud often theres collusion of folks anteing for friends." I would not be willing, yet, to conclude that TBC is right on this point.

      It's a possibility, but I'm guessing Tony has no idea whether the winning player has to ante for all the rest. I'm guessing he saw a couple guys laughingly toss in chips on an occasional hand for a friend and thought, "It's not fair that they never ante for me, too!" The gaps could be filled in that way, too.

      s.i.

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    6. first off let me correct something wrongly posted. the $1-2 tables by the cage unlike the others up front, DO have charging stations on the tables.

      yes the winning player is always the one who antes for all, meaning lots of people were never anteing if they never won. but i did get permission to join in. they were claiming the last guy in my seat didnt wish to, and the same for 1 other guy. i didnt like being the only outsider til a new guy briefly was one too.

      to me paying the ante (if not for the whole table but only their friends) is no different than in holdem, blinds being posted by the winner. or lets say it was much bigger sized bets being called everytime by someone elses money, then would it offend seattle irish?

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  7. the picture above, look in the bottom right corner of the laptop. u will see how its broken off, and doesnt stand up so easily now. its falling apart and i sure hate paying for another one.

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  8. With regards to the power stick, check Amazon or Ebay. With regards to your laptop replace it and next time take care of it. You remind me of a teenager. Grow the F up!!

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  9. That laptop is disgusting - I can guarantee Tony has never cleaned the keyboard or the screen - I wouldnt want that petri dish of a laptop anywhere near me.

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    1. You must have really excellent eyesight, because I cannot see any signs of food spillage or dirt on the laptop. Tony, as Lester said, buy a small roll of black duct tape and tape it back together. It will be OK and keep you going until you can afford a new one.

      In case you have forgotten, I will be back in the Las Vegas area for just over four weeks from July 11. Hoping to catch up with AC, AK, Rob, Lightning, anyone else who might be there who knows me, and you, if you are back in town at that time. Take care.

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    2. Cmon Koala - Tony doesnt take care of himself at ll - do you think he cleans his laptop or phone? LOL I don't need to see what I already know.

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    3. "Hangar18April 25, 2017 at 9:02 AM

      That laptop is disgusting."

      You made that statement. There is absolutely no indication that the laptop is in any way filthy. Tony has enough problems without people like you shitting on him simply because he is an easy target.

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  10. The isle,hard rock,hialeha tony get down to southern fl there giving money away to grinders.

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  11. I think it would be better if people could not use there cell phones at the poker table. People will get bored without there phones and start playing more hands. More action at the table makes for better games.

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  12. Tony, you should sit down and look thru the Bravo poker app for promotions. Poker is your job and finding good deals will benefit you. For example, Dover Downs has a weekly cash reward for playing poker. If you play 10 to 29 hours weekly, it's $2 per hour cash. Every hour over 30 is $10 per hour paid in cash to you. You also get $1 comp per hour. They have hotel room deals for under $50 per night with 4 hour of poker play. DD is just one example, see what else is available.

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    1. how do u think i knew of the columbus promotion, the hotel rooms promotions various locals, etc? by looking on bravo.

      ive considered going to dover before, but truthfully, i dont think being where theyres only 1-2 games which break up often midnite or 1am is a good idea. i dont know if this hotel has a hidden resort fee either. considering the max i could do is 60 hours per week and i average 45-55 hours per week, usually not over 200 per month, and u dont get the $10 on the first 30 hours, i wouldnt get too much. remember, rooms are free here. im considering $87 flight to FLL on friday this week, when theres high prices for 3 nights. then i could get a long term extended stay with like 5-8 poker rooms within a $10-30 uber ride.

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    2. Good point, didn't know your rooms were free in AC.

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  13. Even the appearance of collusion should be avoided. Even though on paper it's not a big deal, it definitely implies that those players are pooling money or working together. The rule I tend to follow is that you don't want to give anyone any reason to suspect collusion or cheating. It's not good for the game or the player' reputation.

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