Tuesday, April 9, 2013

socializing (and playing poker for a living) is especially hard when under pressure

Mc Gee posted this earlier in roughing the punter, and my version of it is somewhat different.
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Well folks we can add another fine establishment that Mr. Bigcharles will no longer be welcomed at anymore. Terrible's has just issued a 30 day ban against him for his behavior this evening.

We were playing 2-4 limit which I made a rare exception to play after his constant nagging of wanting to see how I would do in the game. He then won an early pot and being the cocky SOB that he is challenged me to see who would have the most profit by midnight. I laughed it off explaining that doing such would not prove anything.

After a few hours of playing vastly different styles, we found ourselves both up $105. Tony was on a mini-upswing and I the opposite. His arrogance and boisterous voice consumed the air waves progressively getting louder. I then won a major pot and never looked back, up $160ish. Tony then started to "give back his win" as he calls it and was only up $60 in the game. It was to be his BB the next hand.

{Tony had played video poker earlier in the day losing $57.}

Anger consumed him, and he jumped out of his chair and started yelling, "Give ME your KEYS!" and then I replied "No." He got even louder and started pointing, "GIVE ME YOUR KEYS!!" I said, "No. chill out" Tony then yelled. "I CAN'T STAY HERE, I HAVE NOOOO ROOM, GIVE ME YOUR FUCKKKKING KEYS!!!" I said, "No."

Tony, then SHOVED my 260 blue chips all over the place, across the table, into 2 other players' stacks, into the dealer tray, and the floor.

He is lucky I didn't chose to knock his head off.

Multiple security guards and the poker manager discussed the situation with me afterwards. Security wanted to perma-ban you Tony, but I told them that I knew him and that he were going through a tough time. Somehow, even after being a victim of his psychopathic outburst, I stopped it from escalating to a perma-ban against Tony.

Then after leaving the property he sends me a text stating that I could have told them (poker management) that I wasn't offended.

No apology. No responsibility for his actions. More TBC bullshit about how I shouldn't have been offended.

You're a prick TBC.

Enjoy sleeping at the airport and never touch my chips again asshole.


now before i touch on all this and give my view of why this happened, let me first give a big thanks to King of Donks for all the help he has been, kind of like Andy was. First it was the $50 on lock, 2nd it was paying $115 of my past due internet, 3rd it was offering a tourny stake i figured id better play some other time when i could play my best for him so people wouldnt think i wasnt at my sharpest when playing a stake, and 4th it was offering to pay for a week in vegas in one of these weekly rental places to get me setup without being stressed about not having a room while i try to play poker for a week. Since he offered to pay in the morning, and i couldnt get into a room tonight for $25 at samstown i thought my calender would allow, i went and took a week elsewhere and am good until noon tuesday. cost me $154 for a week, and is 100% unfurnished. no bed, no table, no toilet paper, no towels, no table, no chairs, no tv, no couch, i took it because it saved him a little from what id originally intended for the week, and also saves ME money too if i want to keep the room and renew it on future weeks, and i think thats way too high for me to pay, certainly couldnt pay more. so i cut the weekly cost as much as i could. and now i need a sheet and pillow again. at least pokerJohnny can get rid of holding those bags for me now. was too dead tired to stay awake much longer, will sleep immediately once done with this blog post and was hoping to finish it before kingofdonks woke up.
 
still totally unsure of where to play, but i did find out about a promotion at a different casino that should be very easy to do, problem is the rake is pretty hefty there for such a small game but id gather the promotions worth a few hundred weekly. not even counting the freeroll. also am considering other places with lower blinds i am afraid to risk anything unless i am staked for cash games too. i did promise kingofdonks i wouldnt play anymore machines this week.
 
u see i didnt mention this in my last post but i didnt drop entirely to the $700s from the $900s at $2-4 before todays $57 VP loss at terribles i dropped over $80 a couple days earlier too. i am quite ashamed of myself and i really wish i could control myself without needing counseling. i dont really see how i can be so ignorant and so dumb. i want people to know this, i dont want them thinking im losing all that at $2-4. i actually dont think ill win or lose much over the rake longrun. Mc Gee was winning way over the rake not sure how.
 
good news is i am back to $824 (before i paid the $154 kingofdonks is reimbursing me via moneygram). of course, thats still nowhere near enough to hang out in vegas and play poker, also i deposited the money i bought on coinbase thats now doubled in price in the last week into seals, so i now have 120 chips there to try and grind. bitcoin is up to about $200 i think.
 
----and now for Mc Gee and terribles---
 
i was quite angry with myself about the time Mc Gee first came, for not waiting til 1pm to leave the room, although the maid was bugging me and i had a late 1pm checkout, the plan was to stay in there til poker opened at 1pm so id not get bored. i left the room about 12.30 since mc Gee and i were thinking of going to hooters, and i had the agreement from him he would chop this time. (last time i felt like he was trying to take advantage of me since he thinks hes better, and selectively chops). an old guy got angry with him for this, and left pissed.
 
anyway i sat at a VP, the same one id both lost about $100 on the other day, and won back about $20 on 12 hours later. started doing absolutely horrible, and by 1pm, was out $57 and totally hating myself. Mc Gee showed up right as 4 of us were getting ready to open the table, and i convinced him to sit because i was curious to see how he would do and i thought he might change his mind and consider this game beatable. i was surprised and pleased he was willing to sit.
 
we both started off winning, and never were doing too badly. and eventually we got to where we were both up $105. i get a bit offended Mc Gee dont respect my game of poker and puts me down and considers himself a better player. (because he plays very loose, such as calling AT in EP in a 10 handed game of limit). In NL that call isnt near as loose because u can see so many more flops same with 55 etc which he also says im dumb to fold in limit. i wanted him to stay originally til midnight, so i can still be winning (with him seeing) and then maybe he would respect my play more. Plus i fully expected to be up more by then than him.
 
a new dealer came, and dealt me a pot with Mc Gee away from the table, and i was at a new high of $206 out of the $86 id sat with after dropping $57 of the $143 cash in VP. i seriously was planning to quit and renew my room that i checked out of earlier and take a break once i hit $232 so i could still have $200. i could tell the dealer was pissed i didnt tip and i felt she was rude, and that effected my play. i get sick and tired of being treated rudely, mostly by waitresses just cause im so desperate and broke. i dont see why people who are loaded (such as tipped employees) are rude to those without money, when the only people u should be resentful of and rude to are those with more money than u. But never to someone poorer, those are the people God says to care for. which is why i did for Britni and Lorna. But dont feel any sympathy for those with jobs who are better off than me by far.
 
anyway i never won a pot the rest of her down, lost quite heavily during it, about $40 more and felt she was quite happy i lost, lost with many big hands, AK AQ suited, etc. right after Mc Gee returned. then when the new dealer came in i continued to lose and i wanted a break because i was tired since i woke up early at 9am and couldnt get back to sleep. due to scary dreams of demons stomping on Jesus Christ, dressed up in cartoon costumes, and making a u tube video of a false prophecy in front of a big audience and only i knew the truth as to what was going on. the whole audience was being decieved.
 
i told mc Gee i wanted to leave and suggested we go to arizona charlies since he told me about a good game there the other day, and thought he would be glad to play NL instead and was surprised he didnt want to get up. then i asked if i could have the keys because i needed somewhere to take a break and hes let me nap in his car before and theres no place in terribles to sit and use the laptop. theres no lobby, just the casino and u cant use it on the casino floor and i didnt feel like buying food in the cafe. was surprised he said no, and i tried to ask him if i could talk to him away from the table a minute because i just didnt feel like playing and couldnt understand why he wouldnt leave the seat to talk to me a minute and i said in no way was i going to post my BB. i felt like id sat far too long, and wanted to do the right thing for once (being to quit instantly since i was on tilt).
 
i felt like Mc Gees reason for not quitting was solely to take advatange of my tilt, and NOT the other players which he should be targeting being my friend, and i get annoyed when ive felt at times he solely cares about seeing me lose and not the other players and i dont feel like thats what a friend does. the same way at hooters before when he wouldnt chop good hands with me. and i knew i had to leave and find somewhere to hide and sleep or rest immediately and i didnt want to leave without talking to him privately first. if i was talking loud i never realize im talking loud, but i was irritatated id gave back all my days profits, and that id still had a profit had i not played VP first. i thought he was just trying to get my goat by not leaving the table to consult privately with me so i wouldnt have to talk in front of the whole table. plus all the dealers were annoyed at me for never being able to tip all 4 days. if i had of course, my roll wouldve been at least $50 less than it is now. and id be far more off and more stressed.
 
actually i didnt think Mc Gee would be offended i knocked the chips over, and i didnt really intend to knock them over nearly as hard as i did. i figured hed just tell me to relax and restack them and write it off due to frustration. i had a friend knock my stack over before and the dealer didnt make a scene at that casino. had i been tipping i dont think she wouldve went off yelling for the floor. sure i was in the wrong, but wasnt thinking clearly out of anger. what really offended me was the floorman saying that next time id probably hit someone instead of just the chips of course not, ive never done that. and most others for far worse altercations they only throw out for the day, but they hate me because im not tipping. sickcall mg gee really tips far more than he claimed to me too. ive seen it. also i dont think they realized we were together, it would be far worse and id never done it to someone i didnt know and trust. i trusted McGee to not be offended by it, and i guess i was wrong. i expected him to realize i was just angry and feeling like he cared NOTHING about my feelings, which irritated me at him in return, and i felt i was being goaded by him into continuing to play by his refusal to leave the table to talk to me a minute, or to get up with me to the car and then return. i dont really think i just yelled for the keys. mainly what i wanted was to talk away from the table. i get upset when people try to force me to talk about my problems in front of people instead of going off to the side to talk.
 
and i told mc gee id went to the airport to sleep, but actually i was elsewhere playing poker, i just didnt want to talk at the time, wanted to update blog first and give afew hours time in between. also i did try to call repeatedly immediately after the fact but he didn t answer the phone then.
 
sometimes i dont know how to take mc gee, he was too chummy with the guy omerta got ripped off by,  think maybe a few of those troll accounts are really his, and also too chummy with the guy who sent the piss. yet hes trustworthy driving me places and really seemed he wanted to help me regrow the roll. its just sometimes i get the feeling he specificaly loves seeing me lose at the tables and puts my play down so much i get offended.
 
and im too tired to type more and still need to talk to kingofdonks more and Pker johnny

76 comments:

  1. So kingofdonks offered to pay for a room for a whole week, and you chose an unfurnished place? No bed, no TV, no soap, no toilet paper? Are you expecting kingofdonks to buy you those things also?

    You can forget about anyone giving you a pillow or sheets because we all know you'll just leave them behind on Tuesday.

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    1. it only makes sense to save $80 a month on rent, the money u save will buy a lot of stuff like that. even the higher priced ones they only furnish the furniture, not linens soap toilet paper, etc. already bought pillow and blanket. and most people who donate pillows and blankets for the homeless dont care if they leave them behind or not.

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  2. The Evolution of TBC: trainwreck --> charity case --> paranoid bigot

    I was thinking of offering a stake and a steak in two months when I'm in town, but that's not going to happen if you're a tunnel dweller by then.

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    1. i too made the same arguement u stake the people who are proven winners at poker to those totally without funds. of course i am not totally without funds and i have gotten by on poker 20 yrs and paid for all the machine losses plus expenses off of poker so no matter how uncomfortable i am playing NL with too low money, thats just being smart, dont mean im not a winner.

      i wish i had money, one of the reasons i get so angry i have none is because if i did, i would help out so many broke players such as myself but almost no one is more broke than i am unless they play bad.

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    2. "but almost no one is more broke than i am unless they play bad."

      Uhm... keep those mental wheels whirling, chief, you may be on to something.

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    3. Tony how many people did you help when you had $15k?

      Answer: no one. You dropped $5k in one night of machines and took a $800 cab ride

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    4. I keep hearing about this $800 cab ride... where did he go? To get tacos in Mexico City?

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    5. Stink, he helped female con artists.

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    6. He definitely helped the cab driver with the $800 fare.

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    7. He did that when he had $2000 too though. The possibility of a handie one day was overwhelming.

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  3. Tony, I understand what you're saying about the situation with McGee but you're wrong. No matter what, you should never touch anyone's chips....whether McGee was being a dickhead or not, it doesn't matter.

    Now as far as tipping goes - that is your choice but you are sadly mistaken if you think tipped employees are rich. That's a stupid assumption. That dealer could have FAR more expenses than you, like schooling for her kids, food for her kids, clothes for them, sports, etc. You don't know her situation so don't assume that you do. She's working hard for her money and none of those dealers are rich.

    King of Donks has really really bailed you out - I send my thanks to him along with you.

    FOCUS ON YOUR BEHAVIOUR including your machine play. Video Poker is entertainment that costs, it is NOT a moneymaker. Right now you have NO money to spend on entertainment. If you were as worried as you say you are about finances, figure out a fucking way to stay off the machines.

    GL GL GL

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  4. Tony, at the end of the day you need to realize you don't get it.

    Your gambling results for the last year show you don't really know what you're doing. Your emotions and stubbornness prevent you from developing and improving.

    In terms of friends, you drive them away with your hostile outbursts, overall neediness, and overall paranoia towards intentions.

    If you ever want to succeed, you need to ask and learn more, and demand and assume less.

    Sick call has a car, a bankroll, a wife and kids, and success to his name. You have some sweaty bills in your sock and a laptop and a cell phone that you can't afford to pay for.

    Maybe you should try to learn from him rather than trying to show him you're better than him. Results prove otherwise.



    Also, service industry employees subside mostly on tips. When you're not tipping, they're barely getting paid. If you can't afford to tip here and there, you should be as minimally invasive as best into their job. Go get your own drinks. Don't bother the dealer. You admit to being rude because you're mad that they have more money than you - how do you expect them to treat you? Do you feel the need to be nice to people that shit on you? I didn't think so.


    If you're so resentful towards dealers and servers for being more well off than you, do something about it. And by something I don't mean begging for stakes and wishing you could play 1 cent VBJ. Sack up and become a man and make some changes in your life.

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  5. You constantly talk about how you are offended by other people's actions and how no one thinks about your feelings. How do you think a dealer feels when you don't tip? It's more then just the money, they are providing a service and you are basically telling them to stick it up their butt. I know you say you can't afford it, and you really can't, but throwing a dollar out on pots of $30 or more might cost you $10 in a (good) night.

    Also. GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT! Saving $10 tipping and making yourself look like an ass is easy for you, but losing $57 in a video poker machine because you don't want to be bored for half an hour is dumb. Do something else to keep occupied. Walk the casino floor and see what other people are hitting. Go to the sportsbook and put $2 on a horse that is running in 10 minutes, and wait for the results. That way you have action, and it is a lot less costly then running through over 5% of your net worth in one sitting. I've said before that I'd be willing to help you with stakes in live and tournament play, but I need to know you are capable of acting like a reasonable person before I go out on a limb and associate myself with you.

    Is the game you talking about the Eastside Cannery and the promotion there 4 flush promo? If so, it's a tough game to beat, they just dropped the rake to $3 though, so that will help.

    I get some cash at the end of the month, are you allowed in Aria? If so we can hit the nightly up there once or twice.

    Sorry to be so tough on you, but I want to see you succeed, and this post annoyed me.

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  6. A bunch of points:

    1. If you can't afford to be tipping, you can't afford to be playing. Tipping is part of playing.

    2. Why do you care so much what SCM or anybody else thinks of your poker game? Why can't you be content with your own self-assessment, and anybody else's contrary opinion be damned?

    3. " the only people u should be resentful of and rude to are those with more money than u." Please point me to the verse in the Bible where God tells you that you should be rude to people who have more money than you do.

    4. How convenient that you invent an ethic that not only allows but COMPELS you to be rude to nearly everyone, since nearly everyone has more money than you.

    5. There are no friends at the poker table. I don't mean that literally, of course. But I do mean, entirely seriously, that as a player you must and should "target" whoever has a weakness that you can take advantage of, whether he be friend or foe outside of the game. You are (not for the first time) advocating soft-playing between friends, which is CHEATING. If SCM thought you were on tilt and/or going to play very conservatively to lock in your win, then he was absolutely correct to target you to beat up on. The entire goal of the game is to take each other's money. If you don't understand that or can't accept it, you shouldn't be playing.

    6. Why on earth would you ever have allowed him to chop the blinds on his weak hands but play out his strong hands? That is idiotic on your part. You can force him to either chop every time or play every time, because if he reneges on an agreement to chop even once, then you respond by refusing to chop every time. He can only take advantage of you if you are stupid or timid enough to let him.

    7. "actually i didnt think Mc Gee would be offended i knocked the chips over, and i didnt really intend to knock them over nearly as hard as i did. i figured hed just tell me to relax and restack them and write it off due to frustration." This is an overt admission that you thought it out in advance, if only for a brief period of time. You thought about how he would likely respond, decided you liked how that scenario played out, so you went ahead with the plan.

    I have said many, many times that the things you claim are involuntary actions are anything but, and this adds more evidence to my case. You CHOOSE to do these things. You have full power and capacity to choose not to do them.

    8. "but wasnt thinking clearly out of anger"

    Bullshit. You were thinking perfectly clearly, as the previous point establishes. You thought about how SCM would react, decided that you liked that outcome, so you proceeded.

    9. "what really offended me was the floorman saying that next time id probably hit someone instead of just the chips" How terrible that you were offended. I hope you can recover from such an awful blow to your personal integrity. How DARE the man not just know, by his psychic powers, that you would not escalate violence against property to violence against people! The NERVE of him!

    10. " id never done it to someone i didnt know and trust." So you are only this abusive to your friends.

    On a completely unrelated note, do you ever wonder why you have so few friends?

    11. "i trusted McGee to not be offended by it," Well, obviously he violated your trust. Shame on him. He is clearly not worthy of your friendship.

    12. "and i told mc gee id went to the airport to sleep, but actually i was elsewhere playing poker," So once again we see how easily and casually you lie to people, including your friends.

    And again on a completely unrelated note, do you ever wonder why you have so few friends?

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    1. i dont like to enforce policies of NO chopping because i dont like being forced to play horrible hands HU because a guy wont chop. i just want to enforce policies of chopping. ive come a long way on this, and unlike old past times, i now always chop KK, QQ etc. sometimes not AA, but only during aces cracked, always at other times. in AA cracked no one should chop AA with the understanding they get their $2 preflop back.

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    2. the reason mc Gees assessment and others assessment matters is because thats what determines if my friends think playing poker is right way to success for me, or if i should give it up, or also whether or not i receive poker stakes. also it really helps ur win rate if others at the tables do not think of u as a donkey, ask anyone

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    3. Is this really your concern? I'd happily offer something if you want to hear it and are willing to adapt:

      I've played maybe 10 hands with you and saw a HUGE hole. It was a limped pot on SWC and we saw a... maybe ... 6 or 7 way pot of 5c Kx 9x or something to that effect.

      It checked around to a 3c on the turn and it's checked again to me where I lead from late position - 7 into the 7 chip pot or something close to that.

      It folded around to you in the BB and you check raised - and check raised HARD. HARD as in you raised to 50 or 60. Let me recap - you raised 50 or 60 into 14. After getting everyone else to fold - and they couldn't fold fast enough because they didn't flop a set or two pair on this really dry but turning wet board - I'm stuck with a decision on the turn: get it in with one card to come on an open ended straight flush draw for 53 more chips (and around 30 effective remaining) or fold it right here and there.

      I'm a reasonable player, I fancy myself technically sound. I did the correct thing in folding my hand, even though it was very improbable for you to have two pair or better. I believe you showed a 9x for a semi bluff. Then proceeded to go on chat about how you "KNEW" I didn't have a K because I would have led the flop. Fine; great read.

      However, it's a HUGE hole in your game. Betting 60 into 14 is a really unprofitable play because you risk a ton in the event I do make a call or someone else along the way makes the call, your read is wrong, or you close out the continued bluffs on the river when I miss my 15 outs.

      60 chips (6/10 or so of your stack) is a HUGE risk not only because it's meaningful money to you ($14.40 at today's BTC rate), but it's only getting called by better hands than yours. Showing the "bluff / semi-bluff" is a bad move because people see that you can make moves like that. Chatting about your thought process is a bad move because people see that you can read hands.

      Fine if you want to c/r the turn there. Good move. Raise a more reasonable and less risky amount such as 20-30; 25 would be my ideal amount; 18 raise into 21 pot. You're making me pay bad odds and taking less risk.

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    4. I also want to point out another assessment I have in the 15-20 minutes I spent on the table with you. You chat in the chat box way too much. It's no wonder why you are targeted and harassed. The whole point of SWC is to be anonymous. You are not anonymous when you start talking about your BF Tony or whatever other garbage.

      It's also not fair to open me up to comments when you use my real name, use my blog references, etc. I've been kind enough to send you chips over the past few weeks. You should be kind enough to show me the respect you ask of me; not sharing your screen name, not sharing your real name, not sharing your blog.

      Tony, I like you. I feel sympathetic towards you. I'm in a position to be able to help you. I will try to continue to do so as I see fit. Please take the advice I have given you above to heart.

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    5. i dont think i played that best. often the slider on seals with clubs has me raise more than i intend if im not being careful. wish they had a bet pot button, the new software helps somewhat too. i do worry though if a player is left with too much behind its going to be too much a guessing game on the river.bitcoin at the time was only worth about 1 3rd of that.

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    6. Tony, all of your non RTP friends have been telling you to quit machines for about five years and you didn't listen to them so your argument is moot.

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    7. Rakewell says..."1. If you can't afford to be tipping, you can't afford to be playing. Tipping is part of playing. "

      You made lots of good points, and as a fellow grinder, I feel that it is important to treat your dealers, servers, and everyone well at the table for a whole host of good reasons.

      However, I cannot agree with the absoluteness of your first statement. Tony is in crisis/survival mode right now. If not tipping is going to help him get through this period and rebuild his bankroll, that may be something he has to do. I totally find his attitude distasteful, but that is a seperate issue. As an analogy, if a company runs into cash flow problem, what do you think it should do? Should it immediately stop doing business, or should it try everything it can to reduce expenses, increase revenue, negotiate concessions from vendors, banks, etc?

      Now, whether Tony should be in the gambling business is also a seperate discussion. But if we accept that gambling is what Tony do right now as work, then it is kind of ridiculous to say that if Tony can't afford to tip, then he shouldn't be playing.

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  7. This one actually hurt to read.

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  8. Tony,
    The only salvation for you would be to get banned at all casino's in Vegas so you are forced to leave town and find a job elsewhere.

    You have no control, you have already got yourself kicked out of the best places to play and now you are getting banned from the crappy places to play.

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    1. essentially what id do then is just play in other unknown casinos in other states where ive never played and arent owned by them same corporations. not quit playing. im a poker player for life.

      wouldnt it be better just to learn to do more of what God wants me to do, to treat others a little nicer? its just so difficult when under all the stress of homelessness and dirt poverty. This is why im so hard of homosexuals, pot smokers, other types of sinners, i feel like if i dont make up my unkindnesses at times in other ways, God wont forgive me anymore.

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    2. So many things you did wrong in this blog update, don't know where to begin.

      Then you follow up with this moronic response. Do you really believe you are doing God's work by being a bigot? God help you...

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    3. By the way, selective chopping is a douche move.

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    4. If you keep up your hate-filled ways, at the same time proclaiming Jesus, eventually you are going to turn someone off to God that otherwise might have had an open mind toward Christ as their savior. By doing that their blood is on you, and you will spend your time in eternity knowing you are part responsible for where they are spending their time in eternity...

      Not that I believe any of that, but if you going to proclaim the Bible, then live it. After all God said he'd rather you be cold to him then luke warm. Be hot or cold, God will "spew the luke warm out of his mouth"

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    5. "This is why im so hard of homosexuals, pot smokers, other types of sinners, i feel like if i dont make up my unkindnesses at times in other ways, God wont forgive me anymore." Yeah, I do not think the bible approves of gambling either.....

      Which brings up another big point....How can you claim to have an IQ as high as you say, but still believe a book that contradicts itself repeatedly and was thought up in an era when they got basically NOTHING right? btw...The bible is PRO-Marijuana and some of the first copies were printed on hemp..

      btw I am self-employed, and can still crank out a decent living....how can you sit for HOURS playing vp and be happy about $20 profit HOURS later....minimum wage is 7.25 bro

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  9. I just love TBC blog. I mean he always has a justification for what ever he is doing as it relates to his friends and poker. It must be nearly impossible to play decent poker if you are always thinking about how your bankroll is doing in relationship to are you going to be able to find a place to sleep or eat the next day or week. I love the part where he wants Mg Gee to respect his play. You are so close to being broke why would you care if anyone respects your game or action. The other justification I really dig is the one where the dealers should not be upset with you because you are poorer then they are. That is why they should not expect any tips from you. I love it. I mean they make minimum wages and get a big percentage of there income from tips. They should just understand you better. This whole blog is a portrait of a man who is living a very delusional life. I get it. He is showing the world that it is still OK to be what ever it is you want to. TBC forever.

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  10. So you essentially challenged sick to see who's poker game is better, and then get mad at him for targeting you?

    YOU issued the challenge, not him...

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    1. i wouldnt issue that challenge if i didnt feel my game was being put down all the time. id like a friend to work with as a team not as an opponent.

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    2. Working together as a team at the table is cheating, plain and simple. Pokergod sends all colluders to hell.

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    3. " id like a friend to work with as a team not as an opponent."

      For the umpteenth time, Tony, this is CHEATING that you are advocating.

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    4. Tony why do you always desperately want people to compliment your gambling skills when your life roll has been heading due south for so long?

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    5. Who cares if your put down? At the end of the day it is about winning , not challenging people.

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  11. How can you know so little about poker after all these years? ATo is much more playable in LHE than NLHE cos you're less concerned about reverse implied odds. Staggering.

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    1. i wouldnt play it in either game in EP. im simply aware of the concept u play a lot fewer hands in limit

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    2. And it's never occurred to you to find out why or which hands plays better in one form of HE relative to another?

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    3. 55 is perfectly good to play in any position in a low stakes limit game.

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    4. Maybe you should reflect on why you are not making profit....ATO may be the one hand that you have not been playing that is holding your whole world back tony

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  12. After reading this, I hope some of the individuals who bank roll this clown are happy knowing they are thought of exactly the same as McGee despite the thanks they get here. Just another mug.

    I have followed this saga for years, and played against Tony, and rooted for him to win over the years, despite the racism, the flip outs, and the delusions. But this is one step to far. Aggressively attacking friends or their chips is over the line.

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  13. My main takeaway from the whole post was Rakewell's #1 point

    "1. If you can't afford to be tipping, you can't afford to be playing. Tipping is part of playing. "

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  14. took a nap for like 6 hours, woke up, awful cold sleeping with no cover on the floor. picked up the $170 kingofdonks sent via moneygram up the street, went to the thrift store, got a pillow, blanket, 3 shirts,a water container, for $11, then went to Biglots and got some food and soap and toilet paper for $12. roll is $800 PokerJohnny will see me tomorrow with my clothes etc. am really worried as to what i will do next tues when id owe another $154.

    which is why i took the cheapest place without furniture instead of paying $20 more. zippyboy only thought in the shortterm instead of thinking of the best solution longterm like we all should. no microwave anymore either, but dont really miss the lack of Tv seeing i grew up as a kid without one.

    i must spend the entire week grinding serious poker, and try and qualify for freerolls etc, no machines of course, that was the one promise i made to kingofdonks. $800 is enough to play $2-4. but is $2-4 big enough to pay my bills, and beat the rake? with the right promotions, (easy to hit ones that is--maybe)

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    1. I cannot imagine how having a bed will not add at least $20 to your EV as a poker player in one week. A good night sleep is critical to maximize your win rate, one week is 7 nights of good sleep.

      As usual, you only thought in the short sighted manner, and missed the forest for the trees.

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  15. Perhaps I'm a softy, and perhaps I'm a cheater at the game in Rakewell's mind by saying this, but when I'm playing with friends for what they feel is "substantial sums of money," which can be $50 or $500, I either avoid playing with them at the same table, or try to avoid pots with them.

    The first option, avoidance, is always my default position. I'm a firm believer that nothing good can come out of two friends playing at the same table - only resentment, ill will and hurt feelings. The reality is I'm not looking to take advantage of my friends (if I'm better than them and I know it) so I don't want to be put into a position where I can take their money. On the contrary, it's an EV- spot to play with a friend who's better than me. Why would I want a better player at the table with me unless he's observing my play and / or vice versa?

    The second option, avoiding pots with them, is a form of soft-playing. If I must be in a pot with said friend, I'm not looking to stack them or show them how good I am. I'm generally passive and let them play the hand out - I generally have an agreement with my friends that we're not there to take each other's money regardless. I would never want any claims or doubt in a friend's mind that I'm targeting them or running them over, etc. When money's on the line, it's a quick way to lose a friend by taking their money.

    In summary, it's silly to play with a friend at the table. You're there as a professional, playing in an environment with strangers whose money you want to take. Why would you invite the additional stress of needing to watch out for and compete against a friend?

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    1. Please read the several posts I've written about how soft-play is collusion, and collusion is cheating, here:

      http://pokergrump.blogspot.com/search/label/collusion

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    2. I don't consider it collusion. I understand that you see things very much in a black or white yes or no world, but I see this as a gray area. I have no doubt that we disagree, and have had disagreements about soft play in the past. No biggie; we agree to disagree. I simply avoid any claims of "collusion" by avoiding playing with friends.

      How are things out in NC? I hope all is well & you're settled in.

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    3. Pretty sure I wouldn't even slow play my 93 year old grandmother. But that's probably because I can still remember her jerking a spoon out of my hands when I was 7 and we were playing spoons.

      My apologies for the run on fragmented sentence

      My wife enjoys beating me more than anyone else. I'd say if my friends can't afford to lose their buyin at a table they shouldn't be playing. They should either get a job or not gamble ;)

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    4. Does the collective brain trust believe that if two friends agree that a large pot won by one friend must then be spent on a great dinner is still collusion?

      No other conditions.

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    5. Is this collusion...

      Two friends playing at same table. Prior agreement is that if friend 1 wins large pot from friend 2, friend 1 must take friend 2 out for great dinner.

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  16. I have to finally post on your blog, because this post as really created some anxiety in me. I think you are entirely wrong about your opinion of tipping the dealer. Of course the dealer is going to be upset about having to deal to you for 4 days and never get tipped. You are asking that dealer to work for you for free. They are there working a job, which you refuse to do, and not get paid for the work they are doing. The dealer has bills just like you do, and if you can't afford to compensate the dealer for the service they provide, you shouldn't play. I work on tips as well, and I pray that you never come play in my poker room if that is your mindset. If you just did't play VP, you would have had $57 more dollars to tip with, get food, get a blanket and pillow, etc. But of course you don't see it that way. You would see it as $57 more in your bankroll. If you actually got a job and saw how it felt to work you would think differently about causing someone to work and not get paid. It isn't their fault you have less money than they do, and chances are you might not. If they pay their bills, they might be working day to day trying to keep up. For you to say that they should deal to you for free and not get paid for it is one of the worst opinions I have ever heard you say on your blog. Shame on you. That is 100% selfish and disrespectful to the people out there actually working for a living, keeping up with their responsibilities. Your roll isn't low because you have tipped money in the past. You should stop thinking about all the money you have tipped, that is the cost of playing poker. You should instead focus on the thousands of dollars you gambled away in the VP machines and other bad decisions you have made along those same lines and learn how to not repeat those mistakes. If you would dedicate some money to food and maintain good hygiene, it would sure make you feel better about yourself, get you in a better midset, inject some positivity into your life, and that in turn would make your poker adventures more successful. You have to find a balance. But not tipping is one of the worst ways to create animosity between you and the poker room staff.

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  17. I almost forgot how much I hate the format of blogspot for your blog. Waiting for posts to be approved and readi g them sequentially is painful. Rtp flows bettering like your old blog

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    1. This is why it's mind boggling that Tony embraces the RTP forum. I mean, I know he does it because he loves and craves the attention, but it is basically his old forum without him having any actual ownership/control.

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  18. so you challenged mcgee to who has the better poker skills, then get mad when he plays hard against you? Isn't that the idea behind a challenge? To see who can outplay the other?

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  19. I've never posted before, but I sometimes throw the dealer 1-2 bucks when douchebags like you dont leave tips. Your actions are inexcusable.

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  20. Tony, I have seen you in action on the VP machines, the vbj machine, and at the poker tables. I know how you play and behave towards the other players and dealers. I have never met McGee as far as I know, But I would believe his version of events as he related them before I would ever believe anything you say in your defence.

    Koala

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  21. Wow. This is a pretty depressing post, Tony. Everything I could think to say has been said better by others already. I hope you can eventually control your emotions and your life better some day.

    The one time I played poker at Terrible's I saw a regular get kicked out, I assume it was just for the day. The guy was bitching about his drink being served with the olive on the bottom (or the top, I can't remember) and he was giving the waitress a hard time. The waitress went over to the shift manager to complain. He knew the shift manager. As the guy was coming to talk to him, he said, "Ray (or whatever the shift manager's name was) isn't going to kick me out for complaining about an olive." That was exactly the wrong thing to say. The guy heard him and said, "Watch me" and escorted him out the door.

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  22. Just gone back and read through many old blog entries here. I have to say Tony, I like you, and I root for you, but your attitude toward people who work at casinos is disgusting. You think someone is disrespecting you because they ask if you are okay when you are making a scene in their casino. You tell them you should be able to fire them all because you pay their salaries (THEN YOU REFUSE TO TIP). You can't have it both ways. How do you expect respect when you give it to no one? Then you split blame between your mental disorder and some weird conspiracy involving atheists and liberals.

    I'd have given you the keys. I'd respect your game. I'd have thrown your ass across the table if you did what you did to my chips. Sometimes I think that's what you need, a good kick in the ass to clear your head a little. Maybe then you'll realize if you keep it up you are only going to alienate the few of us that are willing to still help you.

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    1. the funny thing was later in the day at the eastside cannery, a dealer actually got a $10 tip out of me, that id promised if i got my fourth flush for $100 in the final suit i would give since i hadnt been giving earlier, and he got his tip as promised.

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  23. God damn, Tony, you need to read the beatititudes.

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  24. Hey, ever consider living in a storage locker?

    https://www.storeithere.net/self-storage/las-vegas-nv-92914

    There's tons of facilities near the strip and downtown, and they all have very cheap units, under $50 / MONTH.

    Note: If they catch you living there they WILL kick you out, but it's a lot less risky then sleeping in a closet in some casino, because at least if you get 86ed from a storage facility it doesn't impact your ability to play.

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    1. This will make a great Storage Wars episode. I can see it now when they open the locker to auction off for non payment there will be Tony's bones with a laptop sitting on his lap. I am sure the stinky contents will bring at least one dollar.

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  25. Hey scumbag - the dealer learned her trade, puts up with assholes (Like you) everyday, deals with the bottom feeder rude pieces of shit we call poker players, and deserves a dollar when she sends you a pot. Don't play poker if you can't bother to tip the girl a buck. Same for wait staff.

    They don't go to work everyday so they can give free service to charity case gambling addict gutter trash. So fuck you Tony.

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  26. "wouldnt it be better just to learn to do more of what God wants me to do, to treat others a little nicer? its just so difficult when under all the stress of homelessness and dirt poverty. This is why im so hard of homosexuals, pot smokers, other types of sinners, i feel like if i dont make up my unkindnesses at times in other ways, God wont forgive me anymore."

    Tony:

    Please review what you wrote - if god wants you "to treat others a little nicer", that is not accomplished by saying/writing hateful things about "sinners".

    Baby jebus wants you to show some love, Tony.

    s.i.

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  27. Please explain how there is a place that exists that does weekly rentals and provides no bed or anything else.

    I'm assuming even a homeless shelter provides some type of bedding off the floor.

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    1. a lot of apts rent without furniture, why should it be any different if they let u pay weekly? u can buy ur own bed for a lot less than $80 a month extra rent, get a sleeping bag. i often slept on the floor instead to be more comfortable and have better light even when i had a bed. they provide what really matters (fridge and stove)

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  28. Tony, when you have some money, look into "God in Me" ministries. They provide housing with food and help you with rides for $400 a month. Would be absolutely perfect for you.

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    1. once theyd discover i make my living gambling, and i dont feel right lying to others, they sure arent giving rides to casinos and i might not like the neighborhood the rental would be in

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  29. #2743 Today, 05:42 PM
    Iron Mike Sharpe
    Member Join Date: Apr 2013
    Posts: 23



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    I really hate my job. Thinking about moving to Vegas, getting an unfurnished apartment and grinding $2/4 at locals casinos. Sounds like the life.

    I need volunteers to:

    Give me a cash bankroll
    Put me in some tournies
    Chauffeur me around to casinos
    Give me a microwave
    Give me a jacket for next winter
    Send Doritos (Cool Ranch or Nacho Cheese only)
    Get someone to cut my hair (#4 sides and back with a faux hawk up top)
    I'd like a tour of Hoover Dam
    I'd like to sit in my room and grind horse races on Bovada. I'm going to need a subscription to the DRF and a cable package that includes TVG.
    I also will need someone to drive me to multiple WalMarts.

    Please let me know which tasks you will help with. Don't be a faggot nigger and leave me hanging.


    Pretty darn funny from RTP.

    s.i.

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  30. Some of us in Vegas prefer to hang upside down in the closet.

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  31. Yes tony.. you're not ALLOWED to live in a storage unit, but people do it anyway.

    You have to be discreet about it and not act suspicious on or around the premises.

    You can get electricity. Most units have a single bare lightbulb in the unit. What you do is you get an adapter from home depot that you screw into the light fixture and it provides an outlet that you can plug a laptop into. As long as you're not using tons of power (a phone charger and a laptop doesn't use much) it's OK.

    http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/100184555?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=light+outlet&storeId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=100184555#.UWce05OyDoA

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    1. buy it from Lowe's instead - I get a discount there I hear :)

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  32. Tony said, "spent the day with kingofdonks in the venetian. people on twitter were shocked to learn i was shocked that i could get wifi on my cell even after tmobile suspended my service for nonpayment. i thought tmobile would cut that off too, so i couldnt use free wifi on it but they didnt, only cut off me sending texts and making calls."

    Now, all you need to do is get a Google Voice number and install the app on your phone. This way you will be able to text for free through WiFi.

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  33. Tony its Ray from Toledo, I see your doing well, I am new to the blog stuff. Do you read these I am sure you do. How can we talk on this.

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  34. Tonyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, its Ray, can you see this?

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  35. Tony I am sure your busy but I know you will see me on this blog. Ray (Toledo). You're allowed to say hello you poker whale you!

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